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2004-03-19

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Posted by Fred 2004-03-19 12:36:05 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Can't say as I blame you. Good luck Fred. You might try taking his IP address (its in your logs) and complaining to his ISP about his abuse of your system. He is probably violating the AUP of whomever he connects through.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-3-19 12:40:29 AM|| 2004-3-19 12:40:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 David's Medienkritik has had a lot of problems also. The trolls must have some new fun code.

Posted by Mr. Davis 2004-3-19 12:41:59 AM|| 2004-3-19 12:41:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 He's got multiple IPs, aliases, all the crap you'd expect. He's a professional spammer. Posts will now dump into a holding tank for review.

Posted by Fred 2004-3-19 12:44:13 AM|| 2004-3-19 12:44:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 So I was right - he's simply using you to try to get his google score higher so he can foist his patholigical psychoses and ideaology off on innocent parties searching for the real "ADL".

Well Fred/Rantburg, welcome to the big-time. You're important enough in terms of eyes-on-the-pages to where people like this notice you to abuse your board. Sucks that scum like this who can barely keep the drool off the keyboards are causing you to take such steps.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-3-19 12:50:40 AM|| 2004-3-19 12:50:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Fred, that sucks that you've had to do that, but it was getting really hard to find the news stories with those dorks spamming away. :(

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2004-3-19 12:52:17 AM|| 2004-3-19 12:52:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 It had to happen some time. I am suprised RB survived as an open forum as long as it did.

Posted by phil_b 2004-3-19 1:06:17 AM|| 2004-3-19 1:06:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 OS is right - welcome to the Big League!

Posted by .com 2004-3-19 1:10:15 AM|| 2004-3-19 1:10:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Yeah, I was always suprised it didn't get swarmed with dumbasses, racist and terrorist... I guess it was unfortunately just a matter of time. Oh well, only thing that sucks now is that maintaining the site is gonna be a lot more work for Fred.

Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2004-3-19 1:14:34 AM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com] 2004-3-19 1:14:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Any way to get this bilge so it doesnt show in the sidebar?

Now ADL USA has a photo of another traitor to post!
Anyone, is this Fred Pruitt the traitor of Rantsburg?

etc etc.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-3-19 1:14:36 AM|| 2004-3-19 1:14:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 hey fred, quick question,
the inline comments are getting colorful; as the number of editors increases, do you have plans on throwing up a color guide on who each inliner is who?

Posted by Dcreeper 2004-3-19 1:20:01 AM|| 2004-3-19 1:20:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 It sucks Fred but you do what you have to do. You have my support.

Posted by Larry Everett 2004-3-19 1:32:18 AM|| 2004-3-19 1:32:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Fred I thought of an idea. What do ya think of this...

If the user doesn't have a cookie they get sent into the delay bin for you to review. If they do have a cookie and it matches a designated "accepted cookie" or key that you maintain on your server it posts immediatly. You keep a mailing list of people that want to allow posting privlages and whenever you change the accepted cookie you email them an URL to set their cookie to post. That way regulars can post immediatly and if someone who you don't want to give access to gets a hold of a valid cookie you can just remove it from your side and send out an email with a link to get the new cookie.

Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2004-3-19 2:19:18 AM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com] 2004-3-19 2:19:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Way to go fred/RB loyals!!
I look forward to viewing daily information as much as that first beer evernight after work. I usually lean over my chair towards the mouse to hit my favorite link before I reach for the remote to turn on FOX and get the medias view.
Hats off'''''o to the true patriots.

Posted by Rick 2004-3-19 3:23:44 AM|| 2004-3-19 3:23:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 You are scared of bare facts?
Then, read www.duke.org at least if afraid of Pribich site.

Posted by Anonymous 2004-3-19 3:33:35 AM|| 2004-3-19 3:33:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 You are scared of bare facts?
Then, read www.duke.org at least if afraid of Pribich site.

Posted by Anonymous 2004-3-19 3:36:31 AM|| 2004-3-19 3:36:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 Sorry to hear your problems, Fred. I am fairly new to reading RB but for some reason since I saw it noted in Instapundit I visit your site twice a day. Old Chiner in...Yep China.

Posted by Chiner 2004-3-19 3:58:38 AM|| 2004-3-19 3:58:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 Welcome,and grab a chair,Chiner.

Posted by Raptor 2004-3-19 5:44:03 AM|| 2004-3-19 5:44:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 Good luck Fred, I think your workload for this site just got a whole lot heavier.
Keep going please, you run a great site.

Rantburg Rules!

Posted by JerseyMike 2004-3-19 6:25:39 AM|| 2004-3-19 6:25:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#19 Fred, do what you think best. Doing what you do, the way you do it, you are one fine American.

Posted by mhw 2004-3-19 7:55:37 AM|| 2004-3-19 7:55:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#20 Do what ya gotta do... but look into DPA's idea.

Posted by Shipman 2004-3-19 8:09:37 AM|| 2004-3-19 8:09:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#21 OS - where are you seeing the garbage in the sidebar? I was in bed when you posted that. Anybody else seeing it?

BTW, Boris, that's not me.

Posted by Fred 2004-3-19 8:47:44 AM|| 2004-3-19 8:47:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#22 DPA - I was working on the cookie idea before I went to bed last night. Hadn't thought about the URL shebang, though. Thanks.

Posted by Fred 2004-3-19 8:50:48 AM|| 2004-3-19 8:50:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#23 I didn't see anything on the sidebar regards ADL either.

Regards OS's colors (esp. black background) - that is a function of his browser failing to render the color properly and falling back to default BG of black instead of rendering nearest value from available color palette. I think, from prev OS posts, he's running something other than IE and, possibly, Windows - which might mean a reduced color palette. No browser more faithfully adheres to the WWW HTML standards than IE. Sorry if folks don't like it - it's a fact.

Posted by .com 2004-3-19 8:57:29 AM|| 2004-3-19 8:57:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#24 .com, [cough cough hack hack]

We Mac users run Safari which is nicely compliant with all the standards. I got to see Dan's colors -- ALL of them :-)

Now if I could only figger out why Fred's Java buttons don't work in the Poster/Editor ....

Posted by Steve White 2004-3-19 9:41:20 AM|| 2004-3-19 9:41:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#25 That's because they're Javascript. Microsoft and the rest of the world have differences in the way they approach the document object. Microsoft allows you to select an subarea within a text area or text box. If I ever have time to go back to Java programming for a visit I might be able to build a data input routine that works the same way (only slower, and not at all if the user has Java turned off or uses a non-Java browser...) I notice that Blogger has the same problem, so I'm not the only one who can't figure it.

Posted by Fred 2004-3-19 9:52:50 AM|| 2004-3-19 9:52:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#26 Hmph. Why, Boris, why ... *sigh* I accede to whatever you need to do, Fred. The cookie thing'd be cool, and my home PC allows them. And Bush DID sign that bill making spam illegal, yeah?

Posted by Edward Yee 2004-3-19 10:00:49 AM|| 2004-3-19 10:00:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#27 I dont blame you Fred. Boris and the like were getting very bothersome.

Too bad Boris had to make it harder for the rest of us posters. What a stupid prick. Perhaps some sort of 'registration' process might be in order to validate those of us who follow the rules.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-3-19 10:21:20 AM|| 2004-3-19 10:21:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#28 I'm seeing garbage in the side bar. Ive cut and paste here for you to see:

Crude-Oil Prices Hit 13-Year Pinnacle
Fred, is this you? Your ears are too high to be a Jew, what are you?
Now ADL USA has a photo of another traitor to post!
Anyone, is this Fred Pruitt the traitor of Rantsburg?
Fred, thanks for confirming your identity, American blood is on your hands!
By censoring truth Ranburg's Fred Puitt has American blood on his hands!
Posting is shut off
S. Korea Wonât Send Troops to Iraqi City
How al-Qaeda uses the internet
2 U.S. Soldiers Killed in Afghan Fighting
Gunmen Wound Mexican Governor, Bodyguards
Imad Yarkas admits knowing Zougam

This looks like harrassment to me.

Posted by Lil Dhimmi 2004-3-19 10:25:32 AM|| 2004-3-19 10:25:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#29 Fred, when I worked at yahoo we browser detected (off the http header not in client side code) and sent different jscript based on the browser/os etc... kind of a pain in the butt but that's the world we live in with these non-compliant browsers ;)

Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2004-3-19 10:37:51 AM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com] 2004-3-19 10:37:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#30 btw, I'm seeing the same thing lil dhimmi is. It's on the side bar when you click to read the comments on a specific story... not on the main page.

Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2004-3-19 10:39:08 AM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com] 2004-3-19 10:39:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#31 Ahhhh, just realized it's only on the side bar of this story and the ones a few up since it's a static list of the stories that were previous to the one you're looking at. Problem will fix itself...

Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2004-3-19 10:42:21 AM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com] 2004-3-19 10:42:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#32 Lil Dhimmi / DPA: Tell Fred what browser, version, and OS you're running - otherwise he prolly won't even know where to begin. You're right, DPA - they all do it differently.

Dr Steve, those of us who've had to deal with the multitude of browsers and system OS palettes know which ones work well, which ones are okay, and which ones suck. They run the gamut.

BTW, I have nothing against Macs - except the limited software library available. I had both a PC (DOS) and an original B&W Mac for over a year, myself. When it was time to get a better box, I went for a new PC simply because that's where the software is - and that's what matters in the end.

Whatever gives me the best bang for the buck, that's my primary consideration. I don't wear T-shirts with ANYONE's advertising! Oops, not true - I have one: The 72 Virgins Dating Service, heh.

Posted by .com 2004-3-19 10:55:37 AM|| 2004-3-19 10:55:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#33 I think I've got a routine that'll cut the moderating feature to only new posters -- once you're accepted the first time you'll be good to go, mostly. It's cookie-based, so you'll have to have cookies turned on and you'll have to comment before making that first post. If you change machines (like when you go home from work) you'll have to repeat the sequence again. But the way most people here comment, you'll probably never notice the diff.

I hope.

Posted by Fred 2004-3-19 11:09:50 AM|| 2004-3-19 11:09:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#34 Come on Fred, this is US in time of war and you want to censor the truth while Americans are dying in Iraq on basis of lies -- where are your loyalties?

Posted by Anonymous 2004-3-19 11:58:53 AM|| [http://SDLUSA.com] 2004-3-19 11:58:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#35 Ultimately the way to go is to provide client-side certificates for people allowed to post. Posting actions would take place in a SSL-protected web page with permissions only to people with a Rantburg-issued client certificate.

A Rantburg certificate would be cool.

Posted by A 2004-3-19 12:08:56 PM|| 2004-3-19 12:08:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#36 Hey Guys - one thing I'm worried about is if this guy or others will start to use our aliases. Is there a way we could use logons with passwords to post articles? Something like Fark.com does

Posted by Yosemite Sam 2004-3-19 12:24:34 PM|| 2004-3-19 12:24:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#37 I had this happen to one of my sites....it was warez kiddies though.

I went to an automated login process (it emailed the password and most people used throw away email accounts). The first 10 posts of new members were held for review after that they went through. It was only more work in the first week and after that it worked like a charm.

I use PHP and I don't think that the system impacted the anonymity of my users at all....I still have no clue who most of them are.

rd

Posted by red 2004-3-19 12:33:19 PM|| 2004-3-19 12:33:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#38
#36 - I'm using more than just the logon.

I can say no more.

Posted by Fred 2004-3-19 12:38:07 PM|| 2004-3-19 12:38:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#39 Fred's using the keyboard port to read fingerprints again.

Posted by Shipman 2004-3-19 1:52:03 PM|| 2004-3-19 1:52:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#40 .com - you are wrong. Gecko based browsers are more compliant with w3c standards. IE has bunches of things they do but should not.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-3-19 2:02:52 PM|| 2004-3-19 2:02:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#41 YS, if one of my comments sounds rationale and undemented, disregard it. The commenter must be an imposter.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-3-19 2:04:11 PM|| 2004-3-19 2:04:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#42 Registering with password sounds fine to me... and if everybody ignores types like Boris (just deleting him) I think he'll grow bored and spam somebody else.

Posted by True German Ally 2004-3-19 2:34:12 PM|| 2004-3-19 2:34:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#43 Do what you have to do to keep RB the treasure it is, Fred.

Posted by Pappy 2004-3-19 2:56:58 PM|| 2004-3-19 2:56:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#44 Too much spam from Boris.

God Bless you Fred! A lot of people really appreciate your efforts and the service you are providing. I said elsewhere, but will repeat here as well that I agree with someone's prior post that this must be some form of harassment. I was looking at the U.S. Code, and since the guy is soliciting donations for his website (under fraudulent pretenses) it could well be a RICO violation, but this is not my area of specialty. I know itâs time consuming, but I wonder if a call to your local U.S. attorneyâs office might be worthwhile:

U.S. Attorney's Office, Main Office
101 West Lombard Street
Baltimore, MD 21201
(410) 209-4800

Since this moron is using the internet to perpetuate his harassment, it would be a federal offense if (as I suspect) the harassment can be characterized as criminal.

Posted by cingold 2004-3-19 3:21:53 PM|| 2004-3-19 3:21:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#45 Are you sure you're a lawyer? ;>

Posted by Shipman 2004-3-19 3:54:01 PM|| 2004-3-19 3:54:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#46 Fred & Fellow Rantburgians -

If anyone thinks it would be useful, I have a small dossier of info compiled on Boris the Troll via the net. I emphasize that this is all/all public, open-source information, the vast majority of it left in a trail of slime by Boris himself. It includes numerous web and email addresses together with some IPs. I will be happy to post the entire thing and/or email to known Rantburgians.

Fred/Cingold - as a lawyer, former prosecutor and former cop, I will research the legal end of things to see if there is any possibility. Cingold, I like the way you think ...

Posted by Sofia 2004-3-19 5:05:17 PM|| 2004-3-19 5:05:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#47 Sofia, Boris makes it clear that he'll be filing criminal complaints in the US DOJ against everyone who has violated his Civil Rights, and that includes the Jewish ADL and JDL for Terrorism on US soil. This time they won't be able to forge Jury Instructions as Jewish judge and state prosecutor did in 1992, see link.

http://AmericanDefenseLeague.com/peovprib.htm

Posted by Anonymous 2004-3-19 5:18:07 PM|| [http://AmericanDefenseLeague.com/peovprib.htm] 2004-3-19 5:18:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#48 OS - office 32. I hope you understand.

I've sent Boris' information to some "friends" of mine. Boris is toast. It may take a year, maybe even longer, but these guys don't play fair, they play to win. Anonymous, this site is being monitored by some of the folks in Washington, beginning about 10:30AM this morning. I'd be very careful about slinging accusations or making threats. There are about a dozen of us that fall under 10USC101.35. "A word to the wise is sufficient." Let's see if you're a wise man.

Posted by Old Patriot 2004-3-19 5:23:05 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2004-3-19 5:23:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#49 OS - Been in Saudi and Thailand for 3+ yrs and working to corp standards - so I've never used Gecko. You may be perfectly right regards today's browsers, but I cut a LOT out of my post, such as faithfully rendering borders and cell BG's and tables and frames and more. Only IE v3.3 and up did them correctly last time I was forced to work the front-end shit - which was late 2000 . early 2001. I kept hearing nightmare stories about Nutscrape up until sometime mid 2003. IE is free, works fine, and compliant - so I don't need a 3rd party browser.

The black BG's you were seeing this AM were an anomaly of your browser and/or operating system. It SHOULD have taken the closest color value from the palette, if it couldn't render the specified HTML value properly - and believe me, I saw the orange and yellow BG's Dan was playing with, not black as you described. So there is a problem on your system. It doesn't matter to me if you use Gecko or Geico, bro! I was just relating my experiences with the causes of such symptoms. :-)

Posted by .com 2004-3-19 5:41:57 PM|| 2004-3-19 5:41:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#50 Fred - just hit the PayPal button for you. I don't know how you do all you do (and I don't understand any of the technical stuff), but I know we all appreciate your doing it.

C'mon, Rantburgers - time to give Fred more than moral support!

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-3-19 6:14:10 PM|| 2004-3-19 6:14:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#51 Sofia, Boris makes it clear that he'll be filing criminal complaints in the US DOJ against everyone who has violated his Civil Rights

The protection against civil rights violation is a protection of the people against government, not private actors not acting under color of state law (except where slavery is involved). Unless the good folk of Rantburg are turning you into a slave, you're SOL -- the DOJ can't help you; although, they may prosecute you for interstate crime.

Posted by cingold 2004-3-19 6:36:21 PM|| 2004-3-19 6:36:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#52 it's really kind of conceited to refer to oneself in the third person, isn't it?

Posted by fred 2004-3-19 8:09:29 PM|| 2004-3-19 8:09:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#53 Does jock itch ever go away on its own?

Posted by Legal Analyst 2004-3-19 8:55:41 PM|| [http://AmericanDefenseLeague.com/maniacil.htm] 2004-3-19 8:55:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#54 Does jock itch ever go away on its own?

Posted by Legal Analyst 2004-3-19 9:18:39 PM|| [http://AmericanDefenseLeague.com/maniacil.htm] 2004-3-19 9:18:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#55 Fred: How about just automatically comment/post banning anyone who tries to link to a Boris website?

Posted by someone 2004-3-19 9:24:36 PM|| 2004-3-19 9:24:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#56 Legal Analyst [http://AmericanDefenseLeague.com/maniacil.htm] -- Whatever, CompuSerb, Boris, ADL . . .

What you need is a psychoanalyst, or spiritual father (if you retain any shred of Orthodoxy). Being saved by Croats from Croats, I think you have adopted the mindset of Ante Pavelic. The ends (if you deem them important) justify the means (if you think theyâll work). This is heresy, and disgraces the memories of those slaughtered by the Ustase (remember the saying, âkill a third, expel a third, and convert a thirdâ) simply for how they crossed themselves. If you had a point to make, you lost it by offending the good people of Rantburg. That is why I believe you are working for the Ustase and Islamofascists -- you are attempting to defile the good name of Serbian Orthodoxy! And not a word from you today about the atrocities being committed by your brothers (the Albanians) in Kosovo, the historic homeland of Serbia. Shame on you traitor! May God have mercy on your soul, if you repent!

Posted by cingold 2004-3-19 9:35:35 PM|| 2004-3-19 9:35:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#57 Hi Fred...Traveller here. I am so sorry to see the trouble that Boris is putting you through.

I am certain that you will devise a good solution to the problem, but I do hope that you will make every effort to keep the posting privileges as open as possible.

Though I am a card-carrying liberal, I have always attempted to post responsibly. I also remember our friend from Turkey, (Marius?), and some of the fun debates from about a year ago with him...his insight on the differences between " a Tribal Way of Life," and ours in the West remains with me to this day.

So, in the end, I suppose that this is a plea to keep as many and as diverse a population of posters as possible.

Best Wishes & Good Luck,

Traveller

Posted by Traveller 2004-3-19 11:42:56 PM|| 2004-3-19 11:42:56 PM|| Front Page Top

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