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2005-03-07 Europe
The face that launched 1,000 Eurosceptic quips
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Posted by Bulldog 2005-03-07 5:49:22 AM|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 So much! Where to start? Only a few percentage points of the population participates in online forums. This is just the begining. Anglophones are disproportionately represented but thats a combination of culture and being the first movers. I Just don't believe somehow the French and Germans are different to the Brits, They just haven't caught up with the online everyone can choose who they listen to dynamic. They will, just wait.

Otherwise, the Magna Carta was the seminal event in world history. For the first time enforceable rights were written down. The written word became more important than any person, no matter how powerful. Our entire modern society stems from that single event in a small field that still exists.
Posted by phil_b 2005-03-07 6:31:11 AM||   2005-03-07 6:31:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Despite what she's reported to have said about not censoring her blog, it does seem she's removed at least some, if not most or all, of the non-complimentary comments, including the one about the recycled bag she though amusing. The only two remaining contributions at that post are non-English, one of which being this from a French-speaker (translated courtesy of Babelfish):

dear madam, all my congratulations to integrate in your responsibility and working method interactivity. I hope that you will make school. Concerning recycling... It has all gained circulation and data processing. First of all because the traceability, the follow-up of the responsibility are largely facilitated by data-processing progress. Then, because the speed of the communication, the possibility of binding the individuals according to their interest, their profession represent a fantastic advisability of changing the relation between the producer, his missions and the consumer. Of course like any change, it encounters many resistances, from where the need for courage political like yours for example, but so inevitable because one cannot stop technological progress


Shame on those barbaric British eurosceptics for lowering the tone!
Posted by Bulldog  2005-03-07 6:43:15 AM||   2005-03-07 6:43:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Heh. Reading a few other entries, it seems there are still plenty of angry comments. The censorship isn't complete. I don't think I've ever read so many vapidly fawning contributions to a blog before though.
Posted by Bulldog  2005-03-07 6:51:24 AM||   2005-03-07 6:51:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Why I have a feeling that Babelfish did not help to improve the French speaker's post in any way?
Posted by Sobiesky 2005-03-07 6:51:53 AM||   2005-03-07 6:51:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Improved it for me - someone whose French has lapsed considerably in the twelve years or so since I stopped studying it ;) .

It's an English language blog, which they read in English, so why are some of the commentators responding in strange tongues? All a bit rude, I say, especially considering that English is the lingua franca of Europe...
Posted by Bulldog  2005-03-07 7:07:17 AM||   2005-03-07 7:07:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Man,I had a tough time following that,Bulldog.Must be cause I'm just a simplimse cowboy.
Posted by Raptor 2005-03-07 7:35:37 AM||   2005-03-07 7:35:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I didn't say I understand it, Raptor ;) .
Posted by Bulldog  2005-03-07 8:23:37 AM||   2005-03-07 8:23:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 That is exactly what I had on mind in #4. :-)

It resds like someone just built a French version of Chimpskybot.
Posted by Sobiesky 2005-03-07 7:26:34 PM||   2005-03-07 7:26:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 there's still time to reject this agreement of lies and subjugation, BD. Remember, once in, only one seat for the EU on the UN Security Council....Britain, France should lose theirs. Would you really want some unelected pussified belgian (i.e.: french puppet) creating economic hurdles for the UK, while letting the French and Germans skirt debt ceilings and letting Greece lie about their economy? As an American mutt with a considerable dash of English in me, I would hope not! Civil disobedience is not out of the order (and a damn good moment of confusion to take care of bothersome sheikhs, mullahs, and miscreants - wink wink)!
Posted by Frank G  2005-03-07 7:36:49 PM||   2005-03-07 7:36:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Remember, once in, only one seat for the EU on the UN Security Council

Really? Since when?

It's amusing that Frank G's among the chief persons who keep on insisting I'm utterly ignorant about the United States and thus should not comment on it, ever. Somehow I fail to remember ever speaking anything nearly as ignorant as what you just said, Frank.
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2005-03-07 8:20:23 PM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/]  2005-03-07 8:20:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Lent. Have a nice day :-)
Posted by Frank G  2005-03-07 8:27:23 PM||   2005-03-07 8:27:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 If you intentionally just fed misinformation into the forum, just to troll me into correcting it, then admit yourself a liar and be done with it, Frank. No cryptic "Lent" remarks.
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2005-03-07 8:30:49 PM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/]  2005-03-07 8:30:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Surely the members of the EU cannot expect to retain multiple Security Council seats or even multiple General Assembly seats when they unify their foreign policy! For that matter, they can close quite a few embassies and consulates too.

And Giscard d'Estang, chief Euro-bureaucrat, shall bravely lead the European Union's masses into the Chirac multi-polar world, to one day be united with Turkey and the Middle East under the banner of Islam...
Posted by Tom 2005-03-07 8:49:11 PM||   2005-03-07 8:49:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 'zactly. Nuff said, thx Tom
Posted by Frank G  2005-03-07 8:52:08 PM||   2005-03-07 8:52:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Y'all are *welcome*, brother Frank. Pshaw, dude, twern't nothin'.
Posted by Tom 2005-03-07 9:03:54 PM||   2005-03-07 9:03:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 :-) does "should" mean something new?
Posted by Frank G  2005-03-07 9:05:54 PM||   2005-03-07 9:05:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Surely the members of the EU cannot expect to retain multiple Security Council seats or even multiple General Assembly seats when they unify their foreign policy! For that matter, they can close quite a few embassies and consulates too.

But they will still be allowed to field separate Olympic teams? Y'know - like Puerto Rico?
Posted by Pappy 2005-03-07 9:13:01 PM||   2005-03-07 9:13:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Not only is that perplexing, but how could your "Lent" reference be so cryptic? Perhaps the Murat-imposter has surfaced again under a new name.
Posted by Tom 2005-03-07 9:14:34 PM||   2005-03-07 9:14:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Pappy: good question; Tom: don't know either...
Posted by Frank G  2005-03-07 9:17:34 PM||   2005-03-07 9:17:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 when they unify their foreign policy!

Which is what, 20 or 50 years away, if ever? Frank G. seemed to be referring to a specific "agreement of lies and subjudgation", not one yet in the distant future.
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2005-03-07 9:32:01 PM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/]  2005-03-07 9:32:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 how could your "Lent" reference be so cryptic?

Well, the exlicit question was "Since when?" and the implicit question was "Have you no shame being such a hypocrite?"

The answer was "Lent." I with my limited knowledge of English don't quite understand the meaning thereof.
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2005-03-07 9:36:27 PM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/]  2005-03-07 9:36:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Lent is the answer. Subjudgation and exlicit? I don't know about. Nite
Posted by Frank G  2005-03-07 9:41:03 PM||   2005-03-07 9:41:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 Goodnight, lying coward.
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2005-03-07 9:42:39 PM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/]  2005-03-07 9:42:39 PM|| Front Page Top

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