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2007-03-28 Europe

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Posted by anonymous5089 2007-03-28 09:18|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Feh. Commie wet dreams.

Posted by mojo">mojo 2007-03-28 10:32|| 2007-03-28 10:32|| Front Page Top

#2 For once, the expression "You and what army?" fits perfectly.

Posted by Dreadnought 2007-03-28 12:10|| 2007-03-28 12:10|| Front Page Top

#3 This condition becomes understandable given the average persons limited experience with catastrophes that cannot be pelosied away by the magic of immediate withdrawal.

I love that phrase: pelosied away

Posted by 3dc 2007-03-28 14:52|| 2007-03-28 14:52|| Front Page Top

#4 On the plus side, between the US re-writing the politics of western Europe into meeching social democracy, and Soviet brutality of eastern Europe, violently crushing much of their nationalism, we managed to finally pretty much extinguish the fires of war which had ravished Europe for 1500 years.

That is, in the West we convinced them to accept bland homogeneity and helplessness, and in the East, colorless misery and resignation. And except for a brief flare up with the collapse of Yugoslavia, it has remained pretty peaceful since.

So what is left? Well, a unified Europe is still a pipe dream, national self interest is too strong. So unless there is a major conservative revival in Europe, I suspect there will again rise mercenary armies, as they had in the 30 Years War.

The French already have a model in their Foreign Legion, and other nations may follow their example of garrisoning their mercenaries on islands.

The Channel is too close to home for the British, but it would serve several interests of theirs to have an army in the Caribbean. The Dutch, too, would most likely do the same, if not in a joint operation with the British.

Germany and Spain would probably prefer some African island.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-03-28 16:08|| 2007-03-28 16:08|| Front Page Top

#5 national self interest is too strong.
We had it here, too. States' Rights led to a war on this continent.

Posted by eLarson 2007-03-28 16:48|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2007-03-28 16:48|| Front Page Top

#6 'moose, you dream...

Europe does not have the will nor the heart to raise mercenary armies the likes of which raised the countryside during the 1500's.

Even during the 1500's and the Hundred Years War it was the Swedes, Prussians, Germans, and Holy Roman Empire that was doing most of the fighting.

The French, Spanish, Brits, Russians, Austrians, Turks, and others pretty much had exhausted themselves by the end of the 1500's.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2007-03-28 17:57|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com] 2007-03-28 17:57|| Front Page Top

#7 Duh..."razed", not "raised"...

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2007-03-28 17:58|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com] 2007-03-28 17:58|| Front Page Top

#8 Ooooh, Frank G has competition.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-03-28 18:03|| 2007-03-28 18:03|| Front Page Top

#9 I thought this was a good conclusion and I especially like the imagery of the rampaging guinea pigs.

Excuses along these lines also fit the west of Europe. Enjoying good weather since 1945 under a for-free umbrella amounts to ineffective preparation to defend liberty against anything beyond rampaging guinea pigs. Thinking in such terms it is more difficult to comprehend the naiveté of some majorities in east-central Europe. Theoretically the recent practical experience the region had with foreign domination, should provide for a general awareness of past, present and future perils and the ways of coping with them. Thinking that the reward for refusing American protection will lead to a grant of immunity by those who combat western civilization is strategic imbecility. Jettisoning the American alliance can only be justified if an alternative to US protection is found. As things stand the list of candidates that are willing and able to play this role appears to be short.

Posted by Fester Jomons8988 2007-03-28 18:16|| 2007-03-28 18:16|| Front Page Top

#10 Postmodern Europe has done precisely what postmodern theory tells them to do. Their n-a-a-a-a-a-rative is all that matters.

The facts regarding an almost certain demographic collapse, coupled with an inability to defend themselves without the U.S., is too ugly of a concept to let the n-a-a-a-a-a-rative remain intact. So it gets denied and ignored.

Too much effort to rethink the core philosophy, doncha' know.

I loved the bit about Euroland essentially being a drunken fool throwing mud at its only protector. That is an absolute winner of an analogy.

Posted by no mo uro 2007-03-28 19:30|| 2007-03-28 19:30|| Front Page Top

#11 Mercenary armies are a lot cheaper than permanent armies.

Typically, they are like an active reserve, but with less than the normal amount of training on deployment equipment--which is warehoused--again, keeping costs down.

By keeping them on an island, where all their pay is sent back to their native country or kept in a bank account for them, costs are just rock bottom.

Just endless grass drills, practice missions, classroom, eat in the mess and sleep in cheap wooden barracks.

The biggest regular costs are the officers and senior NCOs, who all have to be from the regular army, food and medical.

You do not need great quality, just strength and endurance and "boots on the ground" numbers. Optimally, they don't even engage the enemy; they occupy critical support assignments like flank security, rear area and logistic train security, that are very consumptive of manpower.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-03-28 19:37|| 2007-03-28 19:37|| Front Page Top

#12 LOL NS - I try to only correct Ship's faux pas...

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-03-28 20:29|| 2007-03-28 20:29|| Front Page Top

#13 Lest we fergit, there is reason Commies collude and give support to Radical Islam, and that reason has to do wid the POST-AMER/USA WORLD ORDER. As said times before, even presuming that the Commies + Islamists "save the World" from America, CAN THEY SAVE THE WORLD FROM EACH OTHER [plus other -isms]ONCE THE USA-WEST IS FINALLY GONE?

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-03-28 20:30|| 2007-03-28 20:30|| Front Page Top