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2018-03-26 Government

Trump order would ban most transgender troops from serving, setting stage for court battle

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Posted by trailing wife 2018-03-26 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 Ban them, lose the court case against lefty court, escalates to Supreme Court, probably lose again. In the process you kill the military payments for the surgery.

In the end the Activists win the case and trans are allowed while losing the thing that draws trans into the military in the first place.

Posted by Rjschwarz 2018-03-26 06:56|| 2018-03-26 06:56|| Front Page Top

#2 Who wouldn't want an army of Bradley Mannings?

Posted by Ulolump Grumble1426 2018-03-26 07:08|| 2018-03-26 07:08|| Front Page Top

#3 assigned at birth

And who did the assigning, hmmmmmmm?

Posted by AlanC 2018-03-26 07:53|| 2018-03-26 07:53|| Front Page Top

#4 May work in US Golf Force. Deployments usually only 3-4 months. Mite not work in military.

Posted by Besoeker 2018-03-26 08:12|| 2018-03-26 08:12|| Front Page Top

#5
"It must be remembered," the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said, that the transgender individuals who went to court seek "to serve their nation with honor and dignity, volunteering to face extreme hardships, to endure lengthy deployments and separation from family and friends and to willingly make the ultimate sacrifice of their lives if necessary."

On that rationale, strike down limitations dealing with the Americans With Disabilities Act and the age limitations. The military is NOT about the individual wishes. It's about dealing with an enemy who sets the environment where failure is death. Hey, judges, why do you have a separate set of laws governing the military that you don't have on civilians? /rhet question

Posted by Procopius2k 2018-03-26 09:03|| 2018-03-26 09:03|| Front Page Top

#6 Troops that have chronic health issues and require a steady supply of meds are labeled as "non-deployable" and usually flagged to bar to re-enlistment unless they have some critical MOS and the military is short handed.

Transgenders need a constant supply of meds/hormones to maintain their new gender and thus they would fall under the non-deployable as well. If they try to enlist as transgendered, they could be bared for that. If they choose to do it in the service, they can be barred to re-enlist for medical reasons. This sets up a perfectly logical reason why a ban on them serving is justified.

And because it is reasonable I expect the courts to overturn it and force our military to try to get them hormone treatments in the middle of some sandy ass place during a firefight.

Posted by DarthVader 2018-03-26 09:30|| 2018-03-26 09:30|| Front Page Top

#7 War is tough enough on mental health- does it make sense to start out with mentally ill soldiers?

Posted by Glenmore 2018-03-26 09:42|| 2018-03-26 09:42|| Front Page Top

#8 The clearest definition of 'Delusional' I can imagine is an individual who either cannot or will not reconcile themselves to physical reality. That is a pretty major derangement and the idea that the entire social order should accomodate this madness is ridiculous. There is no place where things get any more real than armed conflict, large or small.

Posted by Cesare 2018-03-26 10:07|| 2018-03-26 10:07|| Front Page Top

#9 Didn't Secretary Mattis recently declare that if you're not deployable, you need to get out? Doesn't matter if you can't deploy because of family obligations, medical conditions, or whatever. Any transgender who needs hormone treatment will not be deployable.

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2018-03-26 11:45|| 2018-03-26 11:45|| Front Page Top

#10 The greatest thing about P.Trump, I mean the GREATEST, is that he is forcing confrontation on these unhappy discussions!

Posted by Skidmark 2018-03-26 12:13|| 2018-03-26 12:13|| Front Page Top

#11 Ditto Skid. A pox on the the UniParty.

Posted by Besoeker 2018-03-26 13:16|| 2018-03-26 13:16|| Front Page Top

#12 The point is, these people are not focused on combat. The Armed Services are not a right and it is not a proving ground for every lefty fad they bring up.

Posted by newc 2018-03-26 15:01|| 2018-03-26 15:01|| Front Page Top

#13 The greatest thing about P.Trump, I mean the GREATEST, is that he is forcing confrontation on these unhappy discussions!

And the reason we're having this particular discussion' is Obama's evilness. That an extremely small segment of our society is able to partially paralyze our military is astounding to me, and that's all on the community organizer.

Posted by Raj 2018-03-26 15:38|| 2018-03-26 15:38|| Front Page Top

#14 "And the reason we're having this particular discussion' is Obama's evilness. That an extremely small segment of our society is able to partially paralyze our military is astounding to me, and that's all on the community organizer.
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Amein

Posted by newc 2018-03-26 23:32|| 2018-03-26 23:32|| Front Page Top

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