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2004-03-23 Afghanistan/South Asia

US quietly aiding Pakistan against al-Qaeda

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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-03-23 12:07:04 AM|| || Front Page|| [11125 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 So we're giving the ISI first hand- real world knowledge of our technical means of intelligence. I wonder how long this will take to get to Al Q.

Posted by Mr. Davis 2004-3-23 12:31:23 AM|| 2004-3-23 12:31:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Just a correction, the North West Frontier Province (NWFP) has always been part of the mainstream of Pakistani society and politics.
It's the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), that have been left to themselves since the days of the British Raj.

Posted by Paul Moloney 2004-3-23 2:32:37 AM|| 2004-3-23 2:32:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 good comments.

Posted by B 2004-3-23 7:08:51 AM|| 2004-3-23 7:08:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Dan,

Thanks for the additional comment. It looks like we're becoming the world's watchman, but if we see anything we call the local gendarmes who may or may not be effective in catching the bad guy between cease fires. In the case of the Pakistani's it is difficult to tell who is how securely on our side as opposed to the bad guy's. I'm not sure we've really gained anything other than making Osama check into a new cave based on what I've seen coming out of NWF or FATA. This strategy seems like a gamble that will have a thousand fathers or a trip to the orphanage depending on the outcome. I pray for success, but wish the fruit were more apparent.

Posted by Mr. Davis 2004-3-23 10:28:43 AM|| 2004-3-23 10:28:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 ..There is another message as well to the Islamonazis in the Pakistani military and intel services:

If we can see them, we can see YOU.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-3-23 10:29:21 AM|| 2004-3-23 10:29:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Hey guys have u seen Bush espacially after the release of Clark's Book....it seems like he has a constipation....I even heard that he has started wearing diapers, in order to avoid embarassment,...and guess who changes his diapers...Paul Wolfowitz and Dick cheney!!!!!!

Posted by Spencer 2004-3-23 10:38:01 AM|| 2004-3-23 10:38:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Geez, Spencer, what are you, 8 or 9? You should be learning how to use Legos instead of posting on blogs. What a kiddie 'tard. Bye bye!

Posted by .com 2004-3-23 10:42:59 AM|| 2004-3-23 10:42:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 spencer people with cosntipation usually not have problem with accident. they have problem going period. chainey to busy hiding to change dipers.

Posted by muck4doo 2004-3-23 10:48:44 AM|| 2004-3-23 10:48:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 I think Dan's comment above hits the nail on the head. Musharaff is pushing to assert control of the tribal areas. Lots of reasons for doing that, some of which are to our advantage if he is really successful.

Posted by rkb 2004-3-23 11:12:34 AM|| 2004-3-23 11:12:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Yeah, Cheney's too busy to change YOUR diapers, Muck4brains.

Posted by Ptah 2004-3-23 11:36:19 AM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2004-3-23 11:36:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Mike,

I agree completely. My concern is that they then know exactly how well we can see them and what timing problems are as opposed to them knowing only approximately and then having to wonder about what we can really do when we go full out.

Posted by Mr. Davis 2004-3-23 12:31:44 PM|| 2004-3-23 12:31:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 So we're giving the ISI first hand- real world knowledge of our technical means of intelligence. I wonder how long this will take to get to Al Q.
So what? They can't duplicate it. All they're getting is the final product. They have no access to the aircraft, the camera system, the control system, or any of the encryption gear aboard. All the Paks are seeing is the imagery. While I'd give both my remaining eye teeth to see the stuff myself, I'm not sure it's going to make that much difference to Purv and his pals. They have to rely on the CIA telling them what they're seeing. It takes quite a bit of training to actually use the information those drones supply, especially the ones using low-light, radar, multi-spectral, and infrared imaging systems.

As for "limitations", we're supplying what we want Pak to see, not necessarily everything. You can't make any significant assumptions from that - not unless you're willing to accept responsibility for some HUGE errors.

Posted by Old Patriot 2004-3-23 12:43:42 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2004-3-23 12:43:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Ahem, I'm the salmon colored comments, Dan's the bright yellow, Fred has pale yellow, and the other Steve hasn't decided yet :-)

Posted by Steve White 2004-3-23 6:33:17 PM|| 2004-3-23 6:33:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 It's not that I haven't decided, it just that I'm still figuring out how to change them to AF blue without hosing them up. Any hints?

Posted by Steve 2004-3-23 7:27:58 PM|| 2004-3-23 7:27:58 PM|| Front Page Top

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