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2006-03-15 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Anonymoose 2006-03-15 10:30|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

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To protect workers who want to join unions, Pelosi said Democrats are "fighting" to pass the Employee Free Choice Act, sponsored by Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.) in the House and Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) in the Senate. "The bill will guarantee that when a majority of workers in a company want a union, they will get a union," Pelosi said.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that already the law?

And what about the folks who don't want to join a union? Are they free not to?

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2006-03-15 10:57|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-03-15 10:57|| Front Page Top

#2 Robert, in a few words, yes it is already law and no they are not free not to. Once a Union is organized at a particular place they then have the clout to demand a closed shop, which means either you join the Union or you don't work there. One reason I'm not a fan of Unions. I wonder where all the money to pay for all these programs will come from? Increased taxes? Increased tarrifs on imported goods? Tax the Rich to feed the Poor until there are no Rich no more.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2006-03-15 11:16|| 2006-03-15 11:16|| Front Page Top

#3 Well, it kind of depends on the state if they have to belong to one, too. Arizona is a "right to work" state, and even if there was a union, there was generally no requirement to join it.

I wonder how their plan aims to change that, if at all.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-03-15 11:38|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2006-03-15 11:38|| Front Page Top

#4 There you have it - the crux of the issue.

"A lifetime of work versus two weeks in the executive suite -- this is not America, this is not fairness"

The Dems want equal outcome, not equal opportunity.

America is about fairnes of opportunity.

Nancy, LIFE isnt fair. Some people are born with the wrong genes ans die soon. Some die in wars. Some are killed in the womb before ever having a chance to draw a breath all for the "conveninece" of theer mother.

If all you can do is work in Walmart at the lowest end job they have for 40 year, then you are nto the sort that could ever *create* new wealth on the scale of a Walmart Executive.

In other words, In the Dem's world of class woarfare:

No matter how much you excel you cannot be allowed to make much more than the lowest.

Nancy, they had this once - its called Communism, and it doesn't work.

Posted by Oldspook 2006-03-15 11:42|| 2006-03-15 11:42|| Front Page Top

#5 Another example of 'Slavery [to unions] is Freedom'....

Here is Washington State unions have a firm foothold - for Teachers you will pay union dues and contribute to the DNC [no matter what your politics] if you want to work in this state.

Posted by CrazyFool 2006-03-15 12:05|| 2006-03-15 12:05|| Front Page Top

#6 Desert Blondie: It sounds like they want to make a National law requiring unions if the majority want it. That way, States won't have a say-so, I guess. One of the reasons (in my book) why Wal-Mart's doing so well is because it doesn't have a Union. Sounds like San Fran-Nan wants to take that determination from the States and give it to the Feds.

Posted by BA 2006-03-15 13:17|| 2006-03-15 13:17|| Front Page Top

#7 Methinks Karl Rove would like her to take up this platform.

Posted by rjschwarz">rjschwarz 2006-03-15 13:39|| 2006-03-15 13:39|| Front Page Top

#8 By making the Employee Free Choice Act one of their core tenants its clear the Democrats are already in public fellation mode with Big Labor. There are a couple of interesting proposals in this legislation. Through mandatory neutrality agreements it will allow union organizers unfettered access to all companies and to all employees even while on the clock. Most troubling is the Card-check proposal. If there is a majority of signatures through this process the union will be the exclusive bargainer for the employees. Through the union authorization card process it means that employees will never get to cast a secret ballot for or against the union. I guess the union bigwigs feel that confidential voting is somehow un-democratic.

Posted by DepotGuy 2006-03-15 14:12|| 2006-03-15 14:12|| Front Page Top

#9 Well they're talking about communist ideals, arent they? And that raises an interesting point about the Democrats and their modern day roots.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2006-03-15 14:15|| 2006-03-15 14:15|| Front Page Top

#10 Did someone say a broadband equipped pony? Why not, it's California isn't it? And a govenment tit for everyone?

Posted by Captain America 2006-03-15 17:33|| 2006-03-15 17:33|| Front Page Top

#11 Dem Socialist Pie in the sky. 40 acres and a mule. Who is going to pay for it? Since the Donk agenda is a draft, say 35% submittal, they do not have to put the cost and the means to pay for it in right now. Watch the 65% and 95% submittals. They will not have the taxes required to feed this monster in their platform, either.

Of course, the republicrats have not been having any financial discipline either. I sure would like to see and independent movement happen, and boot both parasite parties out, but that is pie in the sky too. Ima so depressed.......

Posted by Alaska Paul back home again">Alaska Paul back home again 2006-03-15 17:36|| 2006-03-15 17:36|| Front Page Top

#12 Don't worry. Be happy.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-15 18:01|| 2006-03-15 18:01|| Front Page Top

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