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2017-03-04 Government
US suspends expedited processing for H-1B visas
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Posted by Skidmark 2017-03-04 03:16|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ]  Top

#1 good. My DiL works for an immigration attorney in Boston, it will be interesting to hear what she says.
Posted by AlanC 2017-03-04 07:49||   2017-03-04 07:49|| Front Page Top

#2 About time!!!
End this Indentured Servitude replacement. If you really need foreign workers make real visas like green cards easier to get. A greencard holder is on job parity with a citizen. Taxes, benefits etc.
Posted by 3dc 2017-03-04 09:54||   2017-03-04 09:54|| Front Page Top

#3 Good. All the lefty tech institutions have been abusing this for decades. Force them to actually pay Americans and most will go belly up.
Posted by DarthVader 2017-03-04 10:02||   2017-03-04 10:02|| Front Page Top

#4 Sadly, it's not just a matter of evil capitalists playing the least they can, Darth. Western educational system --- with USA's leading the way, has been systematically sabotaged in the name of various Social Justice causes for the last half-century. Programmers and engineers, from countries where less progressive ways still hold sway, are really better.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-03-04 10:14||   2017-03-04 10:14|| Front Page Top

#5 playing ---> paying
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-03-04 10:15||   2017-03-04 10:15|| Front Page Top

#6 While I generally agree with your sentiment g(r)om. I have to say that Darth is more correct here.

How many times have we seen that Disney model of laying off all the 'murricans and replacing them with H1Bs? In my IT Consulting days I saw many a client that had H1Bs in preference due to the money.
One example was Kodak where they had gotten rid of about 2 dozen IT folks and brought in more H1Bs who were dormitoried by there agent 6 to an apartment. Once a year they went home to India for a couple of weeks.
Posted by AlanC 2017-03-04 10:44||   2017-03-04 10:44|| Front Page Top

#7 Yea, so? The fact still stands that nowadays your best people don't even make it into college. A lot of them get Ritalinized from 5th grade on.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-03-04 11:41||   2017-03-04 11:41|| Front Page Top

#8 grom, methinks you are exaggerating. What I would say is a lot of American kids are discouraged from computer science majors because of H1Bs and outsourcing. Also, I've seen Indian programmers in action but I've seen no evidence that they're any better than Americans. Quite the contrary, actually. They may be more willing to work 60, 70 or 80 hours a week for less money than American kids but that doesn't mean they're any better.

I would also say that if the likes of Facebook, Google, Apple and Microsoft think Indian IT workers are better than Americans they should move to India and pay appropriate tariffs when they try to sell their bloatware in this country. I won't miss them.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2017-03-04 13:39||   2017-03-04 13:39|| Front Page Top

#9 grom, methinks you are exaggerating

But not by much. And I've seen it twice: once in USA in the 90es, and then in Israel 20 years later.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-03-04 13:52||   2017-03-04 13:52|| Front Page Top

#10 There are a lot of problems with American schools and Ritalin is certainly one of them. In my day teachers could always arrange for disruptive young lads to have a meeting with the Board of Education. With his backsides suitably warmed the trouble maker was almost always ready to return to class with an improved attitude. I may have been subject to such discipline a time or two myself and I made a fairly decent career as a programmer. Dunno how I would have done on ritalin.

But I would still assert that H1Bs and outsourcing discourage a lot of prospective computer science majors in this country. I would also assert that requiring a four year college degree on top of a high school education before a student can get a job as a programmer is wasting a helluva lot of time and money. I think a minimum of two years could be cut from that time and we'd probably get better programmers to boot.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2017-03-04 14:55||   2017-03-04 14:55|| Front Page Top

#11 We made it too easy to write software.
It is still VERY tough to build systems, even without Out-of-Culture business analysts, coders and mail order MBAs.

The lower cost headcount allows lower bids which do not include the 60% rework of 'phase II'. The H1b ("Gates initiative") establishes a lower entrypoint but lower total cost savings are unlikely.
Posted by Skidmark 2017-03-04 15:11||   2017-03-04 15:11|| Front Page Top

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