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2023-03-03 Science & Technology

A shot over China's bows? Incredible moment Air Force breaks ship IN HALF with a single 2,000 pound 'quicksink' bomb dropped by F-15E Strike Eagle with 'torpedo-like' accuracy

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Posted by Skidmark 2023-03-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top
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#1 ...(Chuckles in Ammo)

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2023-03-03 05:00|| 2023-03-03 05:00|| Front Page Top

#2 In twenty years the military will admit that a navy as a fighting force is obsolete. The only ships that survive will be robotic. Re-thinking will have to be done on methods of air transport. By then we should have robot Marines and sixteen year old kids will handle them from offices in Nevada.

Posted by Tarzan Grolump8219 2023-03-03 08:15|| 2023-03-03 08:15|| Front Page Top

#3 Ocean is a way to approach if you are doing a D-Day thing. Otherwise, it's important for commercial shipping. Past that, it's not holdable territory.

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-03-03 08:29|| 2023-03-03 08:29|| Front Page Top

#4 I hope they don't mean WWII US Navy "torpedo-like accuracy". Maybe best not to stand too close.

Posted by SteveS 2023-03-03 09:42|| 2023-03-03 09:42|| Front Page Top

#5 Torpedo-like damage I'd get. It is daily mail, so I guess we're lucky they didn't call the F-15 a tank.

Posted by swksvolFF 2023-03-03 10:44|| 2023-03-03 10:44|| Front Page Top

#6 detonating a GPS-navigated bomb underneath the vessel

So, broke the ship's ~~"spine"~~ keel?

Posted by Frank G 2023-03-03 11:03|| 2023-03-03 11:03|| Front Page Top

#7 Hornfischer's book Who Can Hold the Sea lays the case wars are not won unless the sea is held, so it must be held.

Posted by swksvolFF 2023-03-03 11:10|| 2023-03-03 11:10|| Front Page Top

#8 Some guy wrote a book. Therefor, it's all settled.

Really?

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-03-03 11:17|| 2023-03-03 11:17|| Front Page Top

#9 ..you mean like Alfred Thayer Mahan?

Posted by Procopius2k 2023-03-03 12:01|| 2023-03-03 12:01|| Front Page Top

#10 The navy will change, but there is little chance of all navy ships being unmanned any time soon. We have, so far, been unable to automate car driving or accomplish drawn package delivery on a large scale. Sailing is more complex than either.

The need to project power and protect shipping will remain. There are enough resources in the Western Hemisphere for us to detach had we not outsourced all of our manufacturing to China.

Posted by Super Hose 2023-03-03 12:21|| 2023-03-03 12:21|| Front Page Top

#11 OTOH, human steered US Navy ships have not been doing so well lately...

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-03-03 12:22|| 2023-03-03 12:22|| Front Page Top

#12 I see the game of "Who's got the biggest schwanz?" continues. (And, no, Lori Lightfoot, we don't mean you.)

Posted by DooDahMan 2023-03-03 12:32|| 2023-03-03 12:32|| Front Page Top

#13 Control the Seas by any means necessary has been a Military Copybook Heading since before the Phoenicians.

I bring that particular book up not just because of Horfischer's propensity for research and his clear writing style, but because that time period had the same "Navy is obsolete" arguments because of atomics, both weaponized and propulsion.

He reminds us that the how is constantly changing, including such use of robotic picket ships deployed in and around The Arabian Peninsula.

Posted by swksvolFF 2023-03-03 12:46|| 2023-03-03 12:46|| Front Page Top

#14 The Navy does need a ship handling revival. Less woke training more military training would be my prescription.

Posted by Super Hose 2023-03-03 13:01|| 2023-03-03 13:01|| Front Page Top

#15 #12, someone who sees a pissing contest in every argument has issues too.

Just sayin,...

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-03-03 13:31|| 2023-03-03 13:31|| Front Page Top

#16 The bomb, a JDAM, tested in the video is called the Quicksink because of the rate at which it sinks ships

Cue rim shot.

Posted by Angstrom 2023-03-03 16:19|| 2023-03-03 16:19|| Front Page Top

#17 LRASM is up there too. Chinese navy is a big target at sea.

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-03-03 16:47|| 2023-03-03 16:47|| Front Page Top

#18 Bone with 16 LRASMs is a bit faster than any ship on the water.

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-03-03 16:48|| 2023-03-03 16:48|| Front Page Top

#19 I read this book (snif) It told me all I know about the subject! (sob) How dare you question my knowledge? (Waaaaaaaaaghhhh!)

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-03-03 17:59|| 2023-03-03 17:59|| Front Page Top

#20 Want to know what's going on? Get a clearance. See current stuff being tested. Otherwise, please share your thoughts, but qualify your opinion accordingly.

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-03-03 18:14|| 2023-03-03 18:14|| Front Page Top

#21 Mahan was an absolute visionary historian and a staunch supporter of a canal through Central America. Also had a nifty destroyer class named in his honor.

Posted by swksvolFF 2023-03-03 18:58|| 2023-03-03 18:58|| Front Page Top

#22 Of which class are now in service?

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-03-03 19:42|| 2023-03-03 19:42|| Front Page Top

#23 Ender's Game.

The fancy of manned autonomous and autonomous navy vessels which the vessels which are crewed, are crewed mainly as maintenance/repair a la fast food restaurant futures.

The problem there would be lag. Played enough MMOG to know the closer one approaches a 3 second lag the less the ability to make initiative decisions.

So these vessels would need fast CPU processing and energy generation, both of which technology continues on a bold curve. Decentralize the processing and information systems and integrate them into the hull itself. This would of course generated heat, which would be water cooled. In the event of main comm transmission being degrade can use the metal itself, if a bit inefficient, is precedent with classic technology such like speaker wire. Enough memory access to navigate on its own with pre-scanned information as well as the programming to navigate using passive means. Microwave tech used to heat surrounding environment to obscure detection including bending light enough to throw off visual signal.

This decentralized CIC if you may would allow a about even split in twain to allow all functioning operations to occur and take additional instruction.

On the manned ships, there could be a hierarchy of local Enders to take override manual control of a situation.

Main weapon systems, offense and defense, will be in the electromagnetic arena, though booms on bogeys in the form of missiles/torpedoes will still be integral as part of the weapons package, lasers and rail guns/hypersonics will be primary. Over the Horizon and Point Defense.

In base, Eder Prime can send out orders from where ever, and filter through various command structures down to the autonomous vehicles - air, sea, land - to execute. Those vehicles would never be out of the fight short of the destruction of all critical systems of a unit, such as gun autoloader or power train systems or battery/power generation being degraded.

Jamming may be an issue, but if there is a physical connection that can be avoided by launching wire connections to at least surface vessals to connect to said following vessels by magnetic harpoons; the water itself could be used to transmit signals as well. That method would due well with proper encryption technology which is coming along swimmingly in itself.

Such task forces could be assigned to any role, including freighter convoy escort.

3-D printing could allow 'bubbles' in the process to increase buoyance as well as construction automation. A 'slime' could be applied an allow the CPU to organize the 'slime' into the necessary form to repair damages. using metallic based polymers.

In the event of losing communication, the coding falls to the last known event default order of operations. Every vehicle has a special behavioral operation, knocks and bangs, which distinguish it, and even a special alert status, to tell friend from foe. The coding is formidable, except AI for lack of a better term, could code out such a scenario.

Tactical EMPs, if not already a thing, would be potent weapons, so said targets would need to be shielded and able to 're-start- itself.

The Real World gets a vote, and the sea is a harsh mistress, so something like the advent of copper plating for the age of wooden ships and iron men would have to come about. But that is what is being play tested today, perhaps including that US sub which nosed an object not too long ago.

Posted by swksvolFF 2023-03-03 20:37|| 2023-03-03 20:37|| Front Page Top

#24 Obviously the Mahan Class there are no current member, but they performed with distinction in WWII, that's WW11 to you Tiktokrs. They were ahead of their time and the record shows.

Posted by swksvolFF 2023-03-03 20:39|| 2023-03-03 20:39|| Front Page Top

#25 Personally, I think it isn't T-1000s which are the future of global warfare, but along the lines of biotics and chemistry inspires nanotechs.

If you will, imagine nanotechs built of materials which combined with a toxic biotic creates an inert material a biological material such as a human can excrete naturally.

It is the human nature to kill remotely, discretely, as possible, and the arc shows. The spear, the arrow, the firearm. They have all been used as liberally as possible, when possible, and that would fit in killing the opponent as best as possible. Nukes and Chemicals are messy yet effective.

Imagine, if you will, a Dr. Strangelove, imagined over 60 years ago, weapons designed to initiate by default if a no-go code is not received on a periodic schedule.

Posted by swksvolFF 2023-03-03 20:51|| 2023-03-03 20:51|| Front Page Top

#26 Fact is, gathering and sharing information is integral to warfare, and always will be. It is just the application of force which changes.

Posted by swksvolFF 2023-03-03 21:04|| 2023-03-03 21:04|| Front Page Top

#27 Folks far in the future met doom
One fine day, sans a single kaboom,
And they all got to play,
Though I'm sorry to say
That they never knew who had fought whom.

Posted by Sleng Trotsky5650 2023-03-03 22:55|| 2023-03-03 22:55|| Front Page Top

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