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2006-02-08 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by Thaviling Sninelet9299 2006-02-08 15:39|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 VDH seems to have gotten a a pessimism rant recently. It sounds like he's exhausted and defeated.
Certainly the troops don't feel that way and neither do the Iraqis (who are among the most optimistic people on the planet).

Al

Posted by Frozen Al">Frozen Al 2006-02-08 19:17|| 2006-02-08 19:17|| Front Page Top

#2 Wow. Word. He sees the dangers - both without and within. I think he gets it - in spades.

Short attention spans plus individual ego plus endless and massively well-funded covert and overt attempts to subvert Freedom against itself can be fatal. That is what we face.

What VDH has always brought to the table, of course, is his incredible grasp of history - and the attendant lessons we can draw from it to bring today's situation(s) into focus. A debt is owed to this clear-eyed and even clearer-thinking man. We should also be grateful he isn't hamstrung by the usual array of personal itches that must be scratched. It sets his analysis apart from most.

The reference today to the frog placed in cold water is spot-on... but I can't help but disagree with the rest, cuz it just ain't so.

All of the evidence points in the other direction: Active & Passive Muzzies are, in practice, the same thing - the catalyst for the transformation (a witches' brew of peer pressure / threats / Muzzy First appeals / etc.) is mobile and, more or less, directed by those with the money from Saudi, Iran, and the faux Muzzy charities who seek the End Days and realization of Muzzy dominion. It can wear off after a time, but is easily reapplied when that resource is needed. Not one of the Mythical Moderate Muzzies will stand against a jihadi either in their face - or threatening from afar. This is what the evidence indicates, not the wishful thinking that is always raised by someone - and I won't speculate on their motives except to say that ego seems to be primary.

Arriving at a different conclusion, an ugly and unhappy conclusion, does not mean it was, or is, easy. I can't prove my motivations are above rebuke. I can only present my reasoning - intermediate proofs - and hope what I see as truthful and relevant data are accepted as consistent with the conclusion drawn. I do, however, demand (lol) that actual evidence is the only data that should be included or allowed. Adding other components, those touchy-feely bits that are demanded by PCism, taints the result, rendering it useless. I think doing so is ego-driven as we all have a world-view and, obviously, consider it the correct one, or we'd change it assuming we could swallow the implications - real or imagined. I suggest that some cannot do this and, thus, continue to parade nicey-nice palatable views which do not reflect reality - to the danger of us all. Hey, go figure, eh? If this little dustup with Islam wasn't for all the marbles, not just some brownie points or a bet payoff, I'd say more power to 'em. But this is for all the marbles, so I can't let it go that easily.

Once I would've said Fry 'Em Up and, in fact I did, but it was sorta memed and, as is the case with anything reduced to a sound byte, twisted and perverted here 'n there. S'okay, such is everyone's right in a free society - as is the right to call bullshit, when discovered. Now, well, I don't much care, anymore what anyone thinks of me or my views. People see what they want to see - as Paul Simon said so well in The Boxer - based upon their personal demons, angels, ego, insecurities, etc. Then, erroneously and to the danger of us all, that active Western mind gets to work applying carefully crafted, totally and utterly irrelevant, logic that has nothing to do with Muzzies... and the inevitable projection that follows becomes a little movie - and presented with (almost desperate) hope for good reviews. Lol, don't we all? Yeah, we do. Everybody loves an attaboy. But accepting one based upon false dilemmas, strawman silliness, omissions of truth, logic processes which are of no account, etc, should give us pause... those of us who still possess the ability to feel shame know what I mean. Those who have lost this sense, who are partisan hacks who've abandoned all pretense of honor, are easily spotted and, I hope, lampooned until banned for trolling.

Hokay... fig leaf: It's not that I don't appreciate sterling examples of fine logic, I do, but they just have no bearing upon the situation cuz the Muzzies don't think that way. [Most of the proof for this is written down in their own Holy Book, saving me the need to prove it and demanding that those who disagree get off their asses and do some research and self-reeducation.] Go figure, lol... So, while on one hand I applaud these little gems of How Things Should Go From Here for their Western Logic beauty, I almost giggle at the narcissistic Pollyanna arrogance - and suspension of disbelief required - to post them, much less to expect others to extol them. Tis PC-addled CogDis and would be a laughable self-indulgence - were it not so damned dangerous.

Hey, sorry, no - really I am sorry - but reality trumps -- always. The fact is we've been over this ground hundreds of times. I'm about done, in fact. I'll say that the convergence of the enemies of freedom, an odd alliance but certainly one of convenience, at this point in time has made the task of survival much more difficult... they've been smart enough to focus on the one guy, Dubya, who has the will and the authority to protect us within the reality of the constitution. Yeah, he's playing the game and doing some things far too slowly to suit some of us. Just keep reality firmly in mind when dissing him for his failures.

Some of the opponents of freedom are natives and know hundreds of ways, well-intentioned loopholes and vulnerabilities of an open and free society, to hamstring our efforts to stave off implosion. These are actually far more dangerous to us. I do not doubt that we can defeat the external threats - as long as we have the will... and, of course, that's where the real danger lies.

Much posturing has occurred. Much finger-wagging. Much snarking. Within this bubble, Rantburg, we're doing okay, I guess, fending off the idiocies, both external and internal. But... I've sorta given up on revisiting the same old ground endlessly, making the same arguments endlessly, paying the honor of a civil reply to old arguments which, IMO, have been eviscerated numerous times, paying the honor of a reply to the willfully disingenuous and the trolls. Anyone who honestly wonders at my take, can hit the archives.

Fuck that noise. I've gone all the way to the wall. And I'm carvin' my name in that fucker for all time, lol.

My answer: Fry Us Up.

Posted by .com 2006-02-08 20:15|| 2006-02-08 20:15|| Front Page Top

#3 .com: "It's not that I don't appreciate sterling examples of fine logic, I do, but they just have no bearing upon the situation cuz the Muzzies don't think that way."

It's not just the Muzzies. It's the Gores, Kerrys, Clintons, Kennedys... It's the Sheehans, Tolls, Wilsons/Plames, the NYTs, the WaPos... It's the Galloways, Annans, Chiracs... Every last one of them deserves a sentence of life under Sharia law. But, ultimately, leaders of freedom and intelligence and conviction like Bush and Cheney and Rice and Rumsfeld and Bolton will take the hard road necessary to make civilization prevail in spite of all the rest. It's a hard road not too far ahead, no thanks those who deserve Sharia.

Posted by Darrell 2006-02-08 20:45|| 2006-02-08 20:45|| Front Page Top

#4 Lol - point taken, Darrell - nice catch! And they are the first, and foremost, real threat - and must be dealt with before they succeed in destroying us from within. :-)

Posted by .com 2006-02-08 20:48|| 2006-02-08 20:48|| Front Page Top

#5 You lose wars when you don't understand how to win them. First you settle the issue with a full blown civil war to clear out any ambiguity, then you kill the foreign SOBs.

If its important enough to fight overthere, its important enough to really fight here. Like when you pass a declaration of war, you enforce the treason and sedition laws. The cowardly behavior of the MSM demonstrated by the cartoons shows that a real threat backed up with real negative consequences causes them to pause and reflect on whether to aid and abet during time of war.

Posted by Uleart Spack3244 2006-02-08 22:03|| 2006-02-08 22:03|| Front Page Top

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