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2022-02-21 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Biden and Putin agree to 'principle' of summit discussing Ukraine
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Posted by Skidmark 2022-02-21 04:06|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ]  Top

#1 If the stakes weren't so high it would be comical watching Putin play with Biden.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2022-02-21 07:58||   2022-02-21 07:58|| Front Page Top

#2 /\ He won't, he's too smart. His longer-term dividends might be squandered.

They cannot be credited with stopping the bloodshed if there is not bloodshed to stop.


Posted by Besoeker 2022-02-21 08:01||   2022-02-21 08:01|| Front Page Top

#3 China is watching this tour de force by Putin that reveals the desperate cowardice of the Bidet Administration. But most telling, is how they are also setting this up to be cover for all of their other failures in the press. Americans who are squeezed hard in the worst decline in quality of life since the Great Depression, are encouraged to monitor the breathlessly covered goings on in a nation that has virtually no cultural or economic significance to the US. But, theyare a significant cash flow provider to Hunter and a host of other DC elites, so maybe that explains it?After all, the tax plantation exists to serve the aristocracy on the Potomac!
Posted by NoMoreBS 2022-02-21 11:33||   2022-02-21 11:33|| Front Page Top

#4 From the New York Post February 21, 2022 7:01am Updated -

Kremlin pours cold water on summit plan for Biden, Putin on Ukraine

I don't see how a summit would accomplish anything as long as Brandon threatens to expand NATO into Ukraine.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-02-21 11:53||   2022-02-21 11:53|| Front Page Top

#5 High energy prices and inflation are already being blamed on the looming Eastern Euro conflict. Psaki came out with that yesterday.

She simply MUST be believed !
Posted by Besoeker 2022-02-21 11:55||   2022-02-21 11:55|| Front Page Top

#6 Putin doesn't need to invade. At this point he's already partially achieved his goals, and he has all the time in the world to achieve the remainder. Besides, invasion's not popular at home or with Xi; if he invades he will probably lose China's support.

Also note that those recently called up reserves are not exactly in fighting shape. Seems like another feint.
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2022-02-21 12:07||   2022-02-21 12:07|| Front Page Top

#7 Fox reports now on TV Putin has declared eastern Ukraine provinces independent.
Posted by Jatle Sinatra9653 2022-02-21 13:27||   2022-02-21 13:27|| Front Page Top

#8 Brandon will have to impose sanctions.
Posted by Jatle Sinatra9653 2022-02-21 13:28||   2022-02-21 13:28|| Front Page Top

#9 /\......on Ukraine.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-02-21 13:34||   2022-02-21 13:34|| Front Page Top

#10 No borsch for youse.
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2022-02-21 13:40||   2022-02-21 13:40|| Front Page Top

#11 My advice: When you go to the Borscht Belt, skip the borscht and double up on the belts.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-02-21 13:43||   2022-02-21 13:43|| Front Page Top

#12 She simply MUST be believed!

She's an Enema of the Peehole, and so shall she be remembered.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-02-21 13:45||   2022-02-21 13:45|| Front Page Top

#13  not exactly in fighting shape.

"Photos circulating on Russian social media platform VK show dozens of soldiers sleeping on the floor of a tiled room."

National Guard Soldiers Forced To Sleep in a Parking Garage
Posted by Skidmark 2022-02-21 13:58||   2022-02-21 13:58|| Front Page Top

#14 Don Adams time. Would you believe...
"Russia will invade."

...No? OK, Would you believe...
"Russia is preparing to invade -- any day now!"

...well, would you believe...
"Russia is preparing false flag ops which will definitely be followed at some point by an invasion."

Oops.... Would you believe...
"Russia is preparing to recognize two regions as a possible prelude to an invasion."

Next: "Russia didn't invade but they could have invaded!"
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2022-02-21 14:00||   2022-02-21 14:00|| Front Page Top

#15 Pretty much the same as COVID vaxx:

You are vaccinted. You won't get COVID.

You got COVID anyway? Well, it would have been worse without the vaxx. (That cannot be scientifically proved in any individual case, in any way at all.)

You got boosted, twice and got COVID again? Well, whatever it is, it's not proof the vaccines don't work. (Empirically, it absolutely is proof of exactly that.)

The next shot will do the trick. If not, there's always more lockdowns.

Pretty much the exact same schtick.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-02-21 14:08||   2022-02-21 14:08|| Front Page Top

#16 Brilliant: Magoo & Co deliberately leaked their own intelligence assessments (bad move), then publicly predicted the other side's moves (really bad move), and then created expectations that the US would take drastic measures against Russia when the predicted act occurred (really stupid move).

Just brilliant: Show your hand and tell all the players at the pok3r table your strategy, and lock yourself in to one and only one maneuver in advance.... in advance of events that are totally under the control of your adversary.

From Kennan and Acheson, or Kissinger and Nixon, to Maxwell Smart and Wile E. Coyote. In barely a generation.

We Are Ruled By Ludicrous Morons

Posted by Merrick Ferret 2022-02-21 14:11||   2022-02-21 14:11|| Front Page Top

#17 17 intelligence agencies could not determine whether or not the prize was in the top or bottom of the box of Cap'n Crunch.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-02-21 14:23||   2022-02-21 14:23|| Front Page Top

#18 These shitheads truly do believe their postmodern BS about how "The Narrative" is all.

They actually thought they could use screaming headlines, repeated 24/7 by their sycophantic press, to force a ruthless, brilliant realpolitiker acting on his own turf, with no hindrance at all, to capitulate. With their stupid fvcking "Narrative."

Yes, this is indeed just like the way they've lied repeatedly about WuFlu and forced their domestic subjects to comply with their idiotic, botched public health mandates and lockdowns and power grabs. But Putin is not a pu$sy, and Russians are not sheep.
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2022-02-21 14:23||   2022-02-21 14:23|| Front Page Top

#19 At least cargo cults had to build crude runways and control towers. All the IC has to do is leak some bilge to NYT / WAPO and wait.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-02-21 14:24||   2022-02-21 14:24|| Front Page Top

#20 Well the Russians now have invaded Ukraine.
Posted by European Conservative 2022-02-21 18:43||   2022-02-21 18:43|| Front Page Top

#21 White House is in "crisis mode".....per the nuus.

Foking WHY ?
Posted by Besoeker 2022-02-21 18:45||   2022-02-21 18:45|| Front Page Top

#22 No, they all predicted an attack on Kyiv. That's not what's happening.

Look at the map: these tiny little Russian-speaking regions are as far from Kyiv (and Poland, and the West) as they can possibly be. These are Russian-speaking regions that by any historically, linguistically, culturally and socially have since Catherine's time been part of Russia. They have never respected Kyiv's rule. This is why there is zero opposition to the Russians there.

Even Magoo recognizes that we have no interest, absolutely none, in these regions -- which is why he's talking about completely ludicrous sanctions against only these two piss-poor regions that have no impact on us or the world at all.

Magoo's people could end this crisis tomorrow if they would simply agree -- in a formal signed document -- that NATO expansion into Russia's southern tier must never, ever happen.
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2022-02-21 20:32||   2022-02-21 20:32|| Front Page Top

#23 Sen. Bill Bradley told us that expanding NATO was a "blunder of monumental proportions."

Prof. Stephen F. Cohen of Princeton argued long and hard to no avail that this was a colossal mistake.

One of our greatest diplomats and most astute observers of Russia, George Kennan, strenuously warned in 1996 against this foolish, grievous error.

Every one of these wise students of Russia said that kicking the Russians while they were down would come back to haunt us. So foolish. Such blind, heedless arrogance.
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2022-02-21 20:59||   2022-02-21 20:59|| Front Page Top

#24  Just brilliant: Show your hand and tell all the players at the pok3r table your strategy, and lock yourself in to one and only one maneuver in advance.... in advance of events that are totally under the control of your adversary.

Following the brilliant President Obama’s script to the letter. It’s working about as well now as it did then, which must be of some comfort to somebody.
Posted by trailing wife 2022-02-21 21:00||   2022-02-21 21:00|| Front Page Top

#25 The only thing that matters now is bringing this to a conclusion. That cannot & will not happen militarily. The Ukrainian government cannot possibly withstand a protracted war, and -- Lindsay Ghey's bleating notwithstanding -- we will not put our soldiers or airmen in harm's way. Our brace Polish allies, Estonians et al -- none of them matter.

Only the US could deter Russia. No one else. We never had any intention of doing so. We knew that. Putin knew that.

Sanctions are the ultimate stupidity -- the final, brainless flailing and thrashing of the most incompetent, demented, destructive presidential administration in US history.

Now our moronic leaders are on the brink of complete and total failure: trashing our economy-- El-Erin says stagflation is coming; showing the total bankruptcy of their vaunted Alliance; driving Russia and China, former rivals, into a de facto alliance in which Putin can move men and materiel from the Chinese border to the West because for the first time in modern history, Russia fears no Chinese incursion.

Unbelievable, staggering, epic incompetence.

This is how the American Century ends.
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2022-02-21 21:12||   2022-02-21 21:12|| Front Page Top

#26 All they had to do was treat Russia's legitimate security concerns with respect and due care. Admit that it was insane to try to expand NATO across Russia's southern tier.

Show a sincere willingness to create a security system that treated Russia as an equal partner -- instead of spreading endless bullshit about how Trump was a Russian spy and that great nation an evil transphobic white supremacist pariah.

And now we have a stunning failure. Fvck this absurd collection of retards. They have no legitimacy left, none.
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2022-02-21 21:18||   2022-02-21 21:18|| Front Page Top

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