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2012-02-13 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Vladimir Putin vows to reverse Russian population decline

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Posted by tipper 2012-02-13 07:29|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top

#1 What's he gonna do? Personally impregnate hundreds of thousands of women?

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2012-02-13 07:43|| 2012-02-13 07:43|| Front Page Top

#2 Any connection to ll million grandmothers ?

Posted by Besoeker 2012-02-13 07:49|| 2012-02-13 07:49|| Front Page Top

#3 Request Bill Clinton be appointed Ambassador-at-Large?

Posted by Procopius2k 2012-02-13 08:05|| 2012-02-13 08:05|| Front Page Top

#4 Beat me to it, Rambler.

I was going to say "By himself?"

Posted by Mullah Richard 2012-02-13 08:13|| 2012-02-13 08:13|| Front Page Top

#5 Caption below is supposed to mean, "One more generation, and it's over"

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2012-02-13 08:28|| 2012-02-13 08:28|| Front Page Top

#6 Make love, not war.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2012-02-13 10:11|| 2012-02-13 10:11|| Front Page Top

#7 What, personally?

Posted by mojo 2012-02-13 10:45|| 2012-02-13 10:45|| Front Page Top

#8 What's he gonna do? Personally impregnate hundreds of thousands of women?

Last I heard, abortion was the birth control method of most women in that part of the world. Perhaps that's changed, but of not, getting them pregnant was never the issue.

Putin will have to start by paying them to have babies. They have been doing that in Western Europe, with absolutely no effect, even though it,s completely indiscriminate -- after trailing daughter #2 was born in Germany, the checks came automatically, and we had to fight hard to make them stop. Even the argument that we were non-citizens with no plans of staying long term did not sway the petty bureaucrat in charge of such things. I don't remember the final argument that made them cancel it for us, but it must have been a doozy.

Posted by trailing wife 2012-02-13 12:00|| 2012-02-13 12:00|| Front Page Top

#9 ...maybe relying upon the family for support in your later years rather than the state might have an effect?

Posted by Procopius2k 2012-02-13 12:17|| 2012-02-13 12:17|| Front Page Top

#10 (The) Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Reagan (PBUH)

If you have to pay people to have sex, there's something wrong with your country (like all welfare states).

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2012-02-13 12:34|| 2012-02-13 12:34|| Front Page Top

#11 What does his wife (and presumably mistresses) think of the idea?

Posted by CrazyFool 2012-02-13 13:33|| 2012-02-13 13:33|| Front Page Top

#12 Fairly primitive abortion techniques from what I've heard, TW, which might well produce difficulties with wanted pregnancies after multiple bouts of uterine scarring.

Posted by lotp 2012-02-13 13:47|| 2012-02-13 13:47|| Front Page Top

#13 But I suspect the real decline is cultural and environmental. Russian men die young, really serious alcoholism is rampant, as is environmental pollution on a massive scale in parts of the country. And there's a strong sense of futility among many Russians.

Posted by lotp 2012-02-13 13:48|| 2012-02-13 13:48|| Front Page Top

#14 China massively increased their population at the start of the cold war. Not sure exactly what the policy was but its worth looking into.

Also Russia might want to create incentives for folks to move into Russia/Siberia. Folks not of Chinese or Turkemon decent so they won't dillute the Russian claims to the areas. Perhaps Indians as they have population to spare.

Posted by rjschwarz 2012-02-13 14:41|| 2012-02-13 14:41|| Front Page Top

#15 First of all Russia needs some place for breeding parents that is not Moscow, and is a healthy, family friendly place, with non-breeders kept out.

No abortion. No birth control. Strict limits on alcohol and tobacco. Boring 9 to 5 administrative jobs for them men. Women are almost all bored homemakers, with hobbies and a few home based businesses.

Very friendly place, with smiling but forceful police who do not tolerate anything that interferes with the mission. Bring in a lot of young, Russian Orthodox priests with instructions that their sermons emphasize "being fruitful and multiplying", and good parenting.

Public schools with an emphasis on patriotism and pride in Russia. Lots of healthy outdoor, Boy Scout recreation for the kiddies.

Housing is set up with an octagonal pattern of homes sharing a "commons" large play area, each home having a small, fenced private yard, and several bedrooms.

Men get promoted (subtly) based on the number of children they have. When the children are teens the family is moved out so a new family can start in their place.

With a few new cities created as breeding factories, Russian demographics would skyrocket.

Posted by Anonymoose 2012-02-13 15:11|| 2012-02-13 15:11|| Front Page Top

#16 'moose, why wouldn't that work here as well?

Posted by no mo uro 2012-02-13 15:19|| 2012-02-13 15:19|| Front Page Top

#17 Men get promoted (subtly) based on the number of children they have. When the children are teens the family is moved out so a new family can start in their place.

What!!! No mention of celestial marriage?

Posted by Besoeker 2012-02-13 15:27|| 2012-02-13 15:27|| Front Page Top

#18 Lets start by abolishing no fault divorce.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-02-13 16:28|| 2012-02-13 16:28|| Front Page Top

#19

Posted by Mizzou Mafia 2012-02-13 16:32|| 2012-02-13 16:32|| Front Page Top

#20 #5
Its a strong picture and point taken, but only guys in the background.

Posted by swksvolFF 2012-02-13 17:00|| 2012-02-13 17:00|| Front Page Top

#21 For China - Madam Mao said: "Sex is no different than drinking a glass of water".

Posted by Water Modem 2012-02-13 17:03|| 2012-02-13 17:03|| Front Page Top

#22 g(r)omgoru, that's a double-edged sword. No-fault divorce made it a lot easier for me to cut loose from a 37-year-old man-child, so I could go find a guy (a) firing live ammunition and (b) not afraid of the responsibility. Would've been a protracted, expensive hassle to have to document the affairs, and not even remotely worth it to argue over our minimal assets.

As I hoped/expected, I've found many men who are up to the challenge. I believe the problem is the culture. In particular, women's lib, which did a lot more to "liberate" men than women.

Posted by RandomJD 2012-02-13 17:05|| 2012-02-13 17:05|| Front Page Top

#23 that's a double-edged sword

Yea, cuts me every time I've to take leave from my 6.5 years old son

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-02-13 17:20|| 2012-02-13 17:20|| Front Page Top

#24 It's a thankless job but someone's got to do it. Now brace yourself Lana, Putie is coming.

Posted by Shimble Guelph5793 2012-02-13 19:30|| 2012-02-13 19:30|| Front Page Top

#25 And there's a strong sense of futility among many Russians.

That along with it's twin, hopelessness, is the killer.

Posted by Shimble Guelph5793 2012-02-13 19:34|| 2012-02-13 19:34|| Front Page Top

#26 "Sex is no different than drinking a glass of water".

She was doing it wrong then.

Posted by Glenmore 2012-02-13 19:44|| 2012-02-13 19:44|| Front Page Top

#27 or she gets awesome glasses of water

Posted by Frank G 2012-02-13 19:53|| 2012-02-13 19:53|| Front Page Top

#28 Scratch a "conservative" find a near-socialist "organiser" other other people "for their own good"...

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2012-02-13 20:01|| 2012-02-13 20:01|| Front Page Top

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