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2005-02-11 Home Front: Tech
Hewlett Packard ousts boss amid doubts about direction
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Posted by tipper [http://armedstruggle.blogspot.com/] 2005-02-11 1:52:47 AM|| || Front Page|| [11134 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 She arranged a takeover of Compaq, and the rest is bona fide history. Bye, Bye, fem-schmuck.
Posted by IToldYouSo 2005-02-11 3:27:50 AM||   2005-02-11 3:27:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 At least she had a vision. Too bad she had it 10 years too late in an industry where 10 weeks is an eternity.

Better luck next time Carly ... NOT!
Posted by AzCat 2005-02-11 4:16:30 AM||   2005-02-11 4:16:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Well, as an über-parasitic culture, it applied the acquire-coopt-extinguish mode of affairs. The achievements of the 11th-12th century happened not because of Islam and the culture that it brought, but despite of it. After that, the fundie outlook took a hold and the Islamic civilization was on its way to stagnation and decline. Ottomans breathed some life into it at about 1600 by their affinity to sufi branch ideas, but in mere century, the parasitic nature sucked the ideas out and the courtians engaged in bitter disputes whether the stuffed turban or fez was an appropriate headdress (had something to do with moon-god be able to see into one's soul) that resulted in almost a civil war.

I would recommend that this Fiorina schlemiel go live in Magic Kingdom, to experience on her own the legacy of the civilization she so admires.
Posted by Sobiesky 2005-02-11 4:31:50 AM||   2005-02-11 4:31:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I've had quite a lot of dealings with HP. They never got beyond being 'box shifters'. Dell killed them on price and IBM killed them on services. Carly talked a model between the two but never made it a reality.
Posted by phil_b 2005-02-11 4:36:31 AM||   2005-02-11 4:36:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I knew at least 10 people working for HP (Rancho Bernardo, San Diego area) who lost their jobs when The Horned Bitch of Hell (other colorful epithets were around, such as The C**tess of Compaq) came to take over. She will not be missed and it sucks that she and her ilk get golden parachutes - when the people who actually make companies successful merely get the shaft via a pink slip.
Posted by .com 2005-02-11 4:54:51 AM||   2005-02-11 4:54:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 That"Golden Parachute"deal is nothing but corruption.No other word describes a situation where an employee can"screw the pooch",ruin a company and walk away filthy rich.
Posted by raptor 2005-02-11 7:44:58 AM||   2005-02-11 7:44:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I read one report that when she came to speak at one of the HP plants, they had to sneak her in the back enterence and hid all the china coffee cups, replacing them with "safer" paper ones to protect her. When I heard that I knew the company was doomed.
Posted by Steve  2005-02-11 8:31:09 AM||   2005-02-11 8:31:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 $21 million? I'd be happy to screw up royally for a mere $5 million.

Her strategy was flawed from the start. She wanted to emulate IBM (services leading the way, software and hardware providing support) by buying a PC company (!!!???). To underscore her failure of vision, it's noteworthy that IBM got rid of PC manufacturing while keeping the PC service, sales and financing arms.

Bottom line: she's no strategist, and she was too arrogant to listen to others.
Posted by PlanetDan  2005-02-11 8:36:13 AM||   2005-02-11 8:36:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 "Complexity theory tells us that imbalance and asymmetry resolves itself in time..."
In thermodynamics we call it "entropy" and it means that things degrade unless you put in some energy at the appropriate points to maintain order. The Judeo/Christian world had religous and political reformation at the appropriate points. Islam and Fiorina just degraded.
Posted by Tom 2005-02-11 8:54:48 AM||   2005-02-11 8:54:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 I work for one of HP's main competitors, and we have all been highly amused by this whole situation (in the manner of watching the other team's QB self destruct their lead away in the second half, that is). My wife does contract work another of HPs rivals, and she is seeing the same thing over there as well.

Absorbing Compaq was a terrible idea, it was seemed obvious to lowly types like me when HP did it. There must be some salary level that if you exceed it, then you start to get blind to bad ideas. :-/
Posted by Laurence of the Rats  2005-02-11 9:11:49 AM|| [http://htttp://www.punictreachery.com/]  2005-02-11 9:11:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 The "Peter Principle" in action, LotR...
Posted by Sgt. Mom  2005-02-11 9:53:01 AM|| [http://www.sgtstryker.com]  2005-02-11 9:53:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Ummmm "Petra Principle" in this case
Posted by Frank G  2005-02-11 10:06:04 AM||   2005-02-11 10:06:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Sgt Mom, Frank G - LOL
Posted by Laurence of the Rats  2005-02-11 11:10:42 AM|| [http://htttp://www.punictreachery.com/]  2005-02-11 11:10:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 I worked for one of HP's suppliers. Carleton (her full name) was like so many people hanging around tech. She saw it as a path to power, but never had any real love for the technology. I'll bet dollars to donuts that she never understood Intel's strategy on the motherboard, let alone Intel's greatest weakness (mixed signal engineering). She probably couldn't tell you why serial communications channels were replacing parallel ones and why the PC companies were failing to get any traction in SOHO networking and broadband. Instead, she waxed mystical about khalifa (medieval history was her undergrad major) and meritocracy when she had just destroyed one of the most meritocratic corporate cultures ever known. Every successful executive enjoys power to some extent, but to Carleton, power was all that mattered.
Posted by 11A5S 2005-02-11 1:24:47 PM||   2005-02-11 1:24:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Again, it's putting in energy at the appropriate points to maintain order that counts. In a technology company, you can't do that if you know medieval history better than the technology. I have no doubt that 11A5S could have done a better job than Fiorina.
Posted by Tom 2005-02-11 1:50:45 PM||   2005-02-11 1:50:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 The dotcom era's offically over. Good riddance.

to Carleton, power was all that mattered

Don't forget being a rockstar and politician-in-the-making. I feel for the HP engineers who were forced to whoop it up at her periodic Carlypaloozas.

One of them noted the utter humiliation of HP distributing iPods: "On our logo it says HP invent. Not HP distribute"
Posted by thibaud (aka lex) 2005-02-11 2:38:54 PM||   2005-02-11 2:38:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Thanks, Tom. That means a lot to me, going into a job interview as I am in about an hour.

Yeah, Lex, the dotcom era is officially over. It was weird being part of it. One always knew it was a bit of a scam but I'm glad I was there anyway.
Posted by 11A5S 2005-02-11 3:37:32 PM||   2005-02-11 3:37:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Good luck, 11A5S -- I've no doubt you'll impress the heck out of them!
Posted by trailing wife 2005-02-11 3:56:35 PM||   2005-02-11 3:56:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Wasn't it one of the founders of HP who came out vociferously against the merger???

One other thing, what's the fembot movement to do??? She skrewed the pooch.
Posted by anonymous2u 2005-02-11 5:37:43 PM||   2005-02-11 5:37:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 thank you trailing wife!
Posted by 11A5S 2005-02-11 10:16:04 PM||   2005-02-11 10:16:04 PM|| Front Page Top

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