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2008-01-16 China-Japan-Koreas

It's not India vs China anymore ("India is not part of any so-called 'contain China' effort")

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Posted by Zhang Fei 2008-01-16 16:15|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 that's good, then. I guess that "tourist" train China's building to the border will carry goodwill troops?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-01-16 16:45|| 2008-01-16 16:45|| Front Page Top

#2 We're going to be playing the Indian and China cards the rest of this century, or at least the first half of it, the way we used to play the Russian and China cards.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-01-16 17:12|| 2008-01-16 17:12|| Front Page Top

#3 I think India's intent is to play nice until their military is a lot better. They are still very aware that China tub-thumped them in their last dispute, and is currently able and willing to do it again.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-01-16 18:07|| 2008-01-16 18:07|| Front Page Top

#4 I think India's intent is to sell lots of those new Nano cars to China. Play nice, and then get a deal with a commissar to build them locally, and reap the profits.

I think that Chinese train to the border is designed to allow Chinese to move into Tibet and smother the local culture. A war in the Himilayas is insane and the Chinese have territorial claims in almost every other direction to work on first.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-01-16 18:18|| 2008-01-16 18:18|| Front Page Top

#5 China still claims an entire Indian state and occupies a big chunk of Kashmir. It has begun forays into India and Bhutan.

The Indian Elephant will not forget this, no matter what the politicians say in public.

The IAF is moving Su-30 fighters to airbases near China and the IA has moved an entire division of mountain warfare troops into theater.

Posted by john frum 2008-01-16 18:28|| 2008-01-16 18:28|| Front Page Top

#6 JF: China still claims an entire Indian state and occupies a big chunk of Kashmir. It has begun forays into India and Bhutan.

The Indian Elephant will not forget this, no matter what the politicians say in public.

The IAF is moving Su-30 fighters to airbases near China and the IA has moved an entire division of mountain warfare troops into theater.

Just about every college reporter I knew was a communist in all but name. As far as I'm concerned, American journalists are a bunch of communists. Are Indian journalists pretty much communists, as well?

Posted by Zhang Fei 2008-01-16 19:05|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2008-01-16 19:05|| Front Page Top

#7 TOPIX/WAFF [paraph]> INDIA, CHINA DEEPENING TIES MAY NOT ONLY CHANGE THE FACE OF ASIA, BUT CAN CHANGE THE FACE OF THE ENTIRE WORLD.

All together now, wid feeling, "And RUSSIA/PUTIN"??? *THE MOSCOW TIMES > PUTIN WILL ACCEPT BEING MEDVEDEV'S PREMIER, should the latter formally win = take over the PRESIDENCY OF RUSSIA.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-01-16 19:12|| 2008-01-16 19:12|| Front Page Top

#8 Yep. A disproportionate number of Indian journalists are the product of JNU, where the majority of students describe themselves as Marxists.

Papers like 'The Hindu' are run by card carrying members of the communist party of India. The Hindu regularly reports, quite seriously, about the deliberations of the 'CPI Politburo'.

The Indian constitution was changed in the 70's to describe India as a "socialist state". No political party in India may register for elections if it does not "ascribe to the principles of socialism".
A recent court challenge to this constitutional article was dismissed because the judges felt that socialism could mean anything, including social welfare. They are still considering the election law challenge.

Posted by john frum 2008-01-16 20:14|| 2008-01-16 20:14|| Front Page Top

#9 Here is an example... this is on the the Hindu's main website right now.

India and China: A shared vision for the 21st Century

India and China - a Harmony of Civilizations

CPC Central Committee report full text resolution
(that's right.. the full text of the Chinese communists party's central committee report. I wonder if even Chinese newspapers carry this nonsense)

India-US 123 Agreement: Full Text (pdf) | Manmohan statement in Lok Sabha | CPI (M) Polit Bureau statement | CPI (M) Central Committee resolution
(anti-US drivel from the Indian communists)

'Model code violation': Unanimous decision of Election Commission - Full text
(they hate the Hindu nationalists also)

Posted by john frum 2008-01-16 20:22|| 2008-01-16 20:22|| Front Page Top

#10 A typical report (today's issue of "The Hindu")

Indias tilt towards U.S. criticised at CPI (M) meet

KOLKATA: The need to bolster the resistance against the Centres tilt towards imperialist forces in its foreign policy and the impact of these forces on national affairs was underscored at the delegate session of the 22nd State ...

Posted by john frum 2008-01-16 20:24|| 2008-01-16 20:24|| Front Page Top

#11 And bear in mind that this is not some fringe paper. It is one of the major newspapers in India.

Posted by john frum 2008-01-16 20:37|| 2008-01-16 20:37|| Front Page Top

#12 FYI - this was posted by an Indian in response to a Chinese poster who felt that India might ally with China against the US:

The Chinese Freepers are among the most naive people I have seen anywhere. Indians behave like good guests...tell their hosts exactly what they want to hear and then they will do what they will. India and China will never be friends. It maybe true that India wont be Americas scape goat, we cant help America contain China. From our perspective, we need Americas help to contain China...note the difference? Stop dreaming silly of a grand alliance against the USA with China in command, it will never happen and India will not be part of such an alliance.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2008-01-16 21:18|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2008-01-16 21:18|| Front Page Top

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