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2009-01-13 Europe

Jihad and the Roots of Europes Religious Identity

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Posted by tipper 2009-01-13 05:23|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Some might say that Europe died in WWII, and what we had since then is a Zombie---which, by now, is beginning to smell.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2009-01-13 05:57|| 2009-01-13 05:57|| Front Page Top

#2 G(r)om, I like you, not that you care much, I guess, I find you funny and all, but sometimes, you're just predictable and tiring, with your buttons to push and everything.

If you want to go to the death of Europe, WWI makes a much better case, WWII would just be its logical conclusion.

But I don't think Europe died in auschwitz, otherwise, it would have died earlier in Ukraine, or even way earlier, during the 30 years wars.

IIUC, europeans were very unconcerned by the concentrations camps and such up until the late 60's, when the people who actually had gone through the war and knew what collective horror it had been up and through its aftermath, started to make way for the generation that war born after it.
From what I know, the french people of the algerian war era (mid-late 50's early 60's) were very healthy, in that they suffered none of the PC-induced madness that strickens us today, far from that, if you except the commies who were collaborating out of ideology with the "liberation struggle" of the natives, just like they did before that in indochina.
Could France refight the same algeria war now? Not a chance.

The education and entertainement and the information complexes, as well as the "intellectual class", the "creative class", have been much more efficient at killing Europe than WWII ever was... though the GUILT of WWII shoved down our collective throat along with all the other SINS of the white european male certainly has been a major factor... just compare "old" (western, not soviet-occupied, but occupied rather by the neo-leftists, the cultural marxists, the soviet agents of influence), and "new" (soviet-occupied, but not subjected to the other forces metnioned before) Europe, and I mean in the mentalties of the people... "New" Europe actually is "Old" Europe; we've been changed, they've stayed the same, mostly, despite communism, because for them, it was an occupying totalitarian regime, not something that was molded into their minds to change them. I always thought there was more actual commies in France or Italy than in Poland or West Germany.

As for WWII, it is a mental trap; if europeans are to somehow survive, they must escape it, not the historical event which is NEUTRAL (I may/will get some flak for it, but do you really think the jewish people killed by the nazis are intrinsically more victimized than the ukrainians of the Holodomor, the russians in the gulags, the armenians by the turks & the kurds, the cambodians, the tutstis, the south-sudanese,...or even the gypsies who were as a group IIRC as exterminated proportionally as them??? Hell no! I'm really sorry for the jews, but as an european, I have NOTHING to apologize for, and NOTHING to hold them as a special 'victim' group over the other genocided people, past and present), but the overbearing shadow that looms over all things. The engineered guilt of WWII is killing Europe (western Europe), not anything done during WWII.

And all this neurosis is funnily getting real counter-productive for the jews AND the non-jews that pushed it (since the 70's or so), one rather interesting example recently was that racist black (ok, he's actually a metis, but well, he's got a better deal selling his victimhood about slavery and the debt whitey owns to the black people as a "black", even though his mothers hails from an historical slaveships french port, and his father from an african country that actually was a slave-selling country) comedian who got the publicity he wanted by having a guy dressed up as a concentration camp inmate giving an 'impertinence award' to an holocaust denier... perception is the "jews" have gotten themselve the whole of the 'victimhood' pie, but now, blacks, gays, arabs,... wants it too, and are ready to scrape with the joooooos to get their piece of the racket. Just look at how the paleos are pushing the GENOCIDE button. Funny, really, all this is so twisted up I can't help finding funny as hell.

Posted by anonymous5089 2009-01-13 14:41|| 2009-01-13 14:41|| Front Page Top

#3 As for the article, well, don't they know the roots of Europe are muslim? That's what is pushed by the education system, with the help of the EU, and it is the official dogma of the french republic (whose current ideology is "le métissage"), just think how shirak said "the roots of Europe are as muslim as they are Christian" to a stunned fellow pol in a private conversation, or how sarko praised the arab culture, and how it had helped bring the european civilization out of the dark ages...

This is from the Brussels Journal, not welcome here anymore, but I though that link about a big controversy last year among french intellectuals and all their proxies in teevee and public education and all was interesting : imagine, that historian has dared to assert that Europe has no civilizational debt whatsoever toward the muslim world, and that monks and the Byzantine empire were how the heritage from antiquity was preserved and transmitted! Fascist!

Posted by anonymous5089 2009-01-13 14:49|| 2009-01-13 14:49|| Front Page Top

#4 West Germany.

Not that I'm not already semi-coherent at best, but it's east, I do that mistake ("West" vs "est", though it pronounces just as "ouest").

Posted by anonymous5089 2009-01-13 14:53|| 2009-01-13 14:53|| Front Page Top

#5 anonymous5089, I don't care if you feel guilty or not over the past. All I worry about is that Europeans as a group are too stupid to be afraid of what will happen to them if they persist in supporting Arabs attempts to destroy us.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2009-01-13 15:55|| 2009-01-13 15:55|| Front Page Top

#6 They no longer care. About themselves or what happens to them.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-01-13 16:12|| 2009-01-13 16:12|| Front Page Top

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