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2005-01-31 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Steve 2005-01-31 2:26:33 PM|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 A quesion for Senator Kerry:

On what dates were you in Cambodia, and under whose orders? And if I may have a follow-up; what was the substance of your "mission"? Further, will you present all evidence known to you or in your posession, including the photographs and this hat you keep talking about, for forensic evaluation?

Posted by Mark E. 2005-01-31 3:11:53 PM|| 2005-01-31 3:11:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Ok, maybe I'm just too dumb to grab it but...

WHY would the CIA deliver weapons to the Khmer Rouge??? What importance did the Khmer Rouge have in 1968 and didn't they support the North Vietnamese then?

And then, can somebody educate this geographically challenged German who can't reconcile "Cambodian coast" with "going up North from Vietnam"?

Posted by True German Ally 2005-01-31 3:28:06 PM|| 2005-01-31 3:28:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Glad to see someone finally stuck him on the Form 180. Unfortinately, it's a bit late.

Posted by Dishman 2005-01-31 4:02:21 PM|| 2005-01-31 4:02:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Fortunately, it's a bit late.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-31 4:13:53 PM|| 2005-01-31 4:13:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Hey, wait a second. I was the guy in Cambodia...and a black guy and a bunch of spaceshots took me in on a PBR. And, no, I didn't give away any "lucky hats".
I got something for you to sear in your memory right here, douchebag!

Posted by Josiah 2005-01-31 4:22:40 PM|| 2005-01-31 4:22:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 WHY would the CIA deliver weapons to the Khmer Rouge??? Because the Vietnam War was just a big plot to enrich the Military / Industrial Complex, see? The CIA was arming our enemies to keep it going. Oh, and to pay off the Khmer Rouge for the heroin they used to fund the arms.

What importance did the Khmer Rouge have in 1968 and didn't they support the North Vietnamese then? Yes

And then, can somebody educate this geographically challenged German who can't reconcile "Cambodian coast" with "going up North from Vietnam"? Vietnam curls around the bottom of Cambodia, so if you were going "up the river" to Cambodia, you would be going north.

Posted by Steve 2005-01-31 4:33:37 PM|| 2005-01-31 4:33:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Yes but you wouldn't go to the coast when going upriver?

Posted by True German Ally 2005-01-31 5:53:42 PM|| 2005-01-31 5:53:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 TGA - no, you're going against the river current, away from the coast. Going with the river current toward the sea is downriver or down the river.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-01-31 6:04:47 PM|| [http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com/] 2005-01-31 6:04:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 "We delivered weapons to the Khmer Rouge on the coastline of Cambodia."

"We went out of Ha Tien, which is right in Vietnam. We went north up into the border"

Soooo?

Posted by True German Ally 2005-01-31 6:36:00 PM|| 2005-01-31 6:36:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 TGA's got a point (as usual). Just checkd the globe and the only way to get to the coast of Cambodia is via the Gulf of Thailand.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-31 7:14:50 PM|| 2005-01-31 7:14:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 It was different back then. When I was in Nam, the CIA "spooks" (as we called them) had a different map. It's seared, seared in my mind. The Cambodian coast then was northwest of Saigon and east of Laos. I told you about the montagnards, didn't I? Plucky little guys! Carried one on the boat. He gave me a lucky spear.....

Posted by John Fn Kerry 2005-01-31 7:58:44 PM|| 2005-01-31 7:58:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Well it seems that I have to correct myself. Just looked up the big atlas. Ha-tien is right on the coastal border between Vietnam and Cambodia so you would go north(west) indeed up de Cambodian coastline.

I just don't get why nobody asked Kerry why he peddled arms to the Khmer Rouge. They did support the Vietcong back then.

Posted by True German Ally 2005-01-31 8:40:42 PM|| 2005-01-31 8:40:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 TGA, I think the "Khmer Rouge" part of the story is a new detail that the interviewer, Tim Russert, just missed and didn't follow-up on. Kerry is just making this up as he goes along.

Posted by Matt 2005-01-31 8:48:48 PM|| 2005-01-31 8:48:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Actually I think the name Khmer Rouge wasn't in common use in 1968, they called themselves the Communist Party of Cambodia. It was only after Lon Nol came to power when Pol Pot's nationalist and maoist faction (that had not fled to North Vietnam), came to be known under the household name of Khmer Rouge.

I think indeed that Kerry is America's Baron MÃ¼nchhausen (historic German figure known for his bombastic fairy tales).

Posted by True German Ally 2005-01-31 9:03:58 PM|| 2005-01-31 9:03:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Lol! I think you've definitely got it, TGA. The name was not in common usage in the war - and at least 75% of Skeery's tales ring like lead. Indeed, he's an amazing confabulation of bullshit, lies, and ideological (and if tested fairly, sans the "Do you know who I am?" BS, probably clinical) insanity. And he was only a 1.5% swing away from being the President - back here in the real world.

Boggles.

Posted by .com 2005-01-31 9:09:58 PM|| 2005-01-31 9:09:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 .com, I believe that the Vets for Truth had some bigger ammunition ready had Kerry been elected.

Kerry's post Vietnam actions were far more troublesome than his "bandaid heroism". I guess the Bush campaign was smarter than many and believed in victory without pulling the dirtiest laundry out (which would have enbittered parts of the US electorate).

Kerry might have become the first U.S. President to face impeachment hearings BEFORE being inaugurated (if such a thing is possible).

Again, we can only thank the people of Ohio for their wisdom.

Posted by True German Ally 2005-01-31 9:18:23 PM|| 2005-01-31 9:18:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 I'm sure you're right. I am much relieved that he was prevented from reaching office. The embitterment has already occurred - I even ended up in a pointed and heated "debate" with a clueless fool at the grocery store a few days ago. A bona-fide Bush Hater with no, and I mean zero, knowledge of events or issues, just a burning visceral hatred of a man he's never met, knows next to nothing about, and upon whom his future depends. It was surreal.

Posted by .com 2005-01-31 9:26:57 PM|| 2005-01-31 9:26:57 PM|| Front Page Top

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