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2005-01-16 Europe

German Politicos call for Europe-wide swastika ban

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Posted by Bulldog 2005-01-16 11:20:38 AM|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Oh excellent, let's debate the dead past while real live (Islamo) fascists multiply in our midst.

Posted by HV 2005-01-16 1:34:10 PM|| 2005-01-16 1:34:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Neo-Nazis are a perfect example of why it is so important to protect free speech. That said, I still have great difficulty in understanding exactly why Nazi supporters are allowed to mouth off about reviving the Holocaust. It's not a matter of hate speech but one of supporting mass murder. Much like violent jihad ...

Banning symbols is like trying to cure cancer by forbidding any discussion of it. The real malignancy just isn't going to go away.

Posted by Zenster 2005-01-16 2:38:16 PM|| 2005-01-16 2:38:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 The theme of the party Harry went to was 'dress as tastelessly as possible.' I'd say he won the prize.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-01-16 3:28:12 PM|| 2005-01-16 3:28:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Tasteless yes, but if he had gone dressed as the Devil -- more evil than your average neo-Nazi -- it is likely that nobody would have heard about it. But if they had, Prince Charles would not have ordered him to visit Hell.

Posted by Tom 2005-01-16 3:38:25 PM|| 2005-01-16 3:38:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 how about the stiff armed Nazi salute? Gonna ban that? Start in hezbollah, hamas, Iran....

Posted by Frank G 2005-01-16 3:50:28 PM|| 2005-01-16 3:50:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Actually, an Italian soccer player is undergoing the third degree for the stiff arm salute. These symbols are banned in Germany and the logic was not bad at the time as part of reconstruction or what ever we called that one. But now that they've been re-united, they should give free speech a try. If they can't handle it, perhaps they just aren't ready for democracy.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-16 3:56:03 PM|| 2005-01-16 3:56:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Alternative costume photoshop:
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Posted by Tom 2005-01-16 4:19:16 PM|| 2005-01-16 4:19:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Tasteless yes, but if he had gone dressed as the Devil -- more evil than your average neo-Nazi -- it is likely that nobody would have heard about it.

That's probably because devils are fictional and as such have never killed anyone.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2005-01-16 4:33:01 PM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/] 2005-01-16 4:33:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 ignore the Aris attempt to shift the topic to religion, please

Posted by Frank G 2005-01-16 4:40:29 PM|| 2005-01-16 4:40:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Ignore who?

Posted by Shipman 2005-01-16 4:47:26 PM|| 2005-01-16 4:47:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Someone wondered about the reason why Germans are more touchy about Neonazism than about the devil. I told you it. If you can't accept it, tough.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2005-01-16 5:29:14 PM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/] 2005-01-16 5:29:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 heh heh - He Who Cannot Stand Being Ignoredâ¢ bleats...

[ignore]

Posted by Frank G 2005-01-16 5:36:52 PM|| 2005-01-16 5:36:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Ars ignored.

Posted by Tom 2005-01-16 8:34:31 PM|| 2005-01-16 8:34:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 But, of course, if he had dressed up like Che Guevera or Josef Stalin, everything would have been OK.

Posted by jackal 2005-01-16 9:15:33 PM|| [http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-01-16 9:15:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 "The Liberal group in the European Parliament says all of Europe suffered because of the crimes of the Nazis, so there should be a continent-wide ban."

Once upon a time, one would have found the word "liberal" in that sentence a tad *ironic*. No more, alas....

Posted by Wuzzalib 2005-01-16 9:16:35 PM|| 2005-01-16 9:16:35 PM|| Front Page Top

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