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2025-01-08 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Palisades Fire in southern California continues to worsen

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Posted by Fred 2025-01-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 Destructive wildfires force thousands to flee near Los Angeles amid historic windstorm

Posted by Skidmark 2025-01-08 00:41|| 2025-01-08 00:41|| Front Page Top

#2 Los Angeles running out of water

Posted by Skidmark 2025-01-08 00:53|| 2025-01-08 00:53|| Front Page Top

#3 Democrat L.A. Mayor Karen Bass in Africa as Her City Burns

part of a taxpayer-funded delegation attending the inauguration of John Dramani Mahama as Ghana’s president

Important stuff

Posted by Skidmark 2025-01-08 06:45|| 2025-01-08 06:45|| Front Page Top

#4 Timelapse shows rapid spread of Palisades wildfire

'Run for your lives!' LA residents abandon cars to flee wildfire on foot

Posted by Skidmark 2025-01-08 07:05|| 2025-01-08 07:05|| Front Page Top

#5 Fire department bulldozer heads down Sunset Boulevard [to clear cars]

Posted by Skidmark 2025-01-08 07:09|| 2025-01-08 07:09|| Front Page Top

#6 When all is said and done, my curiosity is whether or not any of these fires were 'assisted' in some way.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2025-01-08 08:07|| 2025-01-08 08:07|| Front Page Top

#7 Seen 'rumors' of firebugs waking up, and mysterious fires starting roadside. Those could just be the mentals and Bidenville Campfires, if they are in fact not rumors.

Posted by swksvolFF 2025-01-08 08:26|| 2025-01-08 08:26|| Front Page Top

#8 #4 Experience shows, when a cop says "run for your lives, this is your only warning", one's awareness intensifies.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2025-01-08 08:38|| 2025-01-08 08:38|| Front Page Top

#9 I think it is unusual for a wild fire to start in a built up suburban area.

No doubt it will be difficult to do the investigation.

Posted by Lord Garth 2025-01-08 11:26|| 2025-01-08 11:26|| Front Page Top

#10 While Los Angeles Burns, Mayor Bass Parties in Ghana, Fire Chief Fiddles With DEI

Posted by Frank G 2025-01-08 11:49|| 2025-01-08 11:49|| Front Page Top

#11 Heard fire chief is one of those biopsy ladies.

Posted by swksvolFF 2025-01-08 13:20|| 2025-01-08 13:20|| Front Page Top

#12 #11

Meet Los Angeles Fire Chief Kristin Crowley. She boasts about being the first female and LGBTQ fire chief in the LA Fire Department. Promoting a culture of DEI is her priority.

Does this make you feel safer? pic.twitter.com/9PG9bUmYCY
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2025-01-08 13:27|| 2025-01-08 13:27|| Front Page Top

#13 When all is said and done, my curiosity is whether or not any of these fires were 'assisted' in some way.

I think it is unusual for a wild fire to start in a built up suburban area.

Could have been a hobo fire but it doesn't matter. And, no, it is not at all unusual for fires to start in suburban areas of southern California.

Instead of building up like a lot of cities in the East, California cities spread out into the scrub brush. When Los Angeles ditched their trolley system way back in the 1930's they thought the automobile was the future. With cars and freeways, they built vast single family housing developments all over Los Angeles County and then the developers moved south to Orange and San Diego Counties. Never mind the traffics jams when the freeways proved to be inadequate for all the cars in all those suburbs.

But they left open areas between the housing tracts, mainly in canyons where it was too steep to build. The brush in those canyons gets thick and dry. Fires are as predictable as the Santa Ana winds. One way or another they will start. It's part of the natural cycle and it would happen whether people were here or not. Some of those seeds won't even germinate until they've been burned.

The problem is we've made ourselves vulnerable. If you buy a home on the rim of one of those canyons you must know that you are at risk. That's why the insurance companies have either jacked up their rates or left the state altogether. Insuring homes in fire prone areas doesn't make sense.

Building vast housing tracts in southern California never made any sense except for the developers who made fortunes and the politicians they bribed. Taxes are high, the Democrats who run the place are all crooked morons, traffic jams are stupefying, it's crowded everywhere you go. The place only has one thing going for it: When it's nice, it's really really nice.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2025-01-08 13:53|| 2025-01-08 13:53|| Front Page Top

#14 I'm thinking that if Mayor Karen can just piss off to Africa to cash her Diddycrat Loyalty Points, maybe put her out in a busy booth and let the adults make decisions.

Mayor Karen: I think we need to do a broadcast

Adults: Great idea, precious little time, we can do evacuation routes, no-go areas, refugee rally points, and ....

Mayor Karen: I was thinking something like blaming global warming and elevating my public image, something Kathleen Sebelius like.

Posted by swksvolFF 2025-01-08 15:17|| 2025-01-08 15:17|| Front Page Top

#15 State Farm got out in time.

State Farm discontinuing 72,000 home policies in California

California’s home insurance crisis: What went wrong, how it can be fixed and what owners can do

Posted by Skidmark 2025-01-08 15:25|| 2025-01-08 15:25|| Front Page Top

#16 "Fire Hydrants Reportedly Dry Amid Fires!

As fires ravage Pacific Palisades and surrounding areas, reports are surfacing that fire hydrants in many areas are without water.

This is a staggering failure—one that demands immediate answers from Janisse Quiñones, CEO of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power (LADWP).

How is it possible that in fire-prone Los Angeles, hydrants—our first line of defense—are dry when they’re needed most? Homes are being reduced to ash, not because firefighters lack skill or bravery, but because there’s no water to fight the flames.

Questions LADWP Must Answer:

Why are reservoirs like Santa Ynez and Upper Stone Canyon not supplying adequate water to hydrants?

Were maintenance or refill protocols ignored ahead of wildfire season?"

https://x.com/AmyMek/status/1876914202549662176

Posted by NoMoreBS 2025-01-08 16:49|| 2025-01-08 16:49|| Front Page Top

#17 Los Angeles water system strained as firefighters struggle to contain wildfires

Los Angeles air quality improves after becoming 'hazardous' from wildfire smoke

How could they tell?

Posted by Skidmark 2025-01-08 17:23|| 2025-01-08 17:23|| Front Page Top

#18 How is it possible that in fire-prone Los Angeles, hydrants—our first line of defense—are dry

Why was there no water to fight the fire in Maui?

Posted by Skidmark 2025-01-08 17:26|| 2025-01-08 17:26|| Front Page Top

#19 Fire Hydrants Reportedly Dry Amid Fires!

I take it salt water doesn't douse fires? Seems to be a bit about the area.

Posted by Procopius2k 2025-01-08 18:50|| 2025-01-08 18:50|| Front Page Top

#20 ^And full swimming pools remaining by burned out dwellings.

Posted by Cured Romantic 2025-01-08 21:48|| 2025-01-08 21:48|| Front Page Top

#21 Denser water is tougher on the equipment.

What is left of a swimming pool post-burning is going to be debris laden, which requires a filter, which is tough on equipment.

On top of that, pumping water uphill has some friction/turbulence reduction of efficiency.

Posted by swksvolFF 2025-01-08 22:28|| 2025-01-08 22:28|| Front Page Top

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