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2025-02-05 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

There was famine, but there was no Holodomor

Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.

Text taken from an article published in rt.com

Commentary by Russian military journalist is in italics.
[ColonelCassad] "The events of 1932-1933 could not have been a man-made famine. This is evidenced by numerous sources, currently available to all researchers," TASS quotes Naryshkin as saying.

According to him, the myth "about an allegedly deliberate Holodomor-genocide aimed at destroying the Ukrainian peasantry" was cynically created at the time by radical Ukrainian nationalists in Germany and Poland.

In September, the Russian embassy expressed outrage at Switzerland's decision to recognize the "Holodomor" as genocide.

They recalled that the famine of the 1930s was not the first and not the last in the USSR; similar tragedies occurred in the Volga region, the Kazakh SSR, Crimea and Western Siberia.

Actually, when in the 90-10s we supported the rhetoric about the fictitious "Holodomor", thereby laying the foundation for the official recognition of this fake in the West. The same thing happened with Katyn, etc.

All this was not about the past, but about the present and the future. To stigmatize the Russian Federation and prepare for its dismantling and war against it. In this regard, official anti-Sovietism caused enormous damage to the Russian Federation.

There were those who argued the Irish Potato Famine was just peasants too lazy to farm, a temporary problem that would pass. There are those who argue there was no Nazi Holocaust of the Jews, that only a few tens of thousands died in work camps. Turkey throws a temper tantrum whenever their Armenian genocide is mentioned, and refer to the Kurds they’re currently trying to kill off as merely Mountain Turks.

Posted by badanov 2025-02-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11152 views ] Top

#1 All of Soviet Union had famine due to Stalin's "collectivisation". Ukrainians "confuse" that famine with the 19th century ones they had every decade or so in Austro-Hungarian Galicia.

Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-02-05 02:09|| 2025-02-05 02:09|| Front Page Top

#2 Ignore the corpses stacked outside.

Posted by ed in texas 2025-02-05 09:12|| 2025-02-05 09:12|| Front Page Top

#3 /\ Spot on Ed. Need to have a few million combat casualties very few years or they're not practicing politics correctly.

Posted by Besoeker 2025-02-05 09:18|| 2025-02-05 09:18|| Front Page Top

#4 By decree of the Soviet Communist Party, farms, villages, and whole towns in Ukraine were placed on blacklists and prevented from receiving food, Grom.

Peasants were forbidden to leave the Ukrainian republic in search of food and during the winter of 1932–33, organized groups of police and communist authorities ransacked the homes of peasants and took everything edible, from crops to personal food supplies to pets.

Stuff they didn't teach you in school or the Young Pioneers.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2025-02-05 09:24|| 2025-02-05 09:24|| Front Page Top

#5 /\ Yea, that communist thing again.

Posted by Besoeker 2025-02-05 09:27|| 2025-02-05 09:27|| Front Page Top

#6 TASS quotes...

Didn't they take over Pravda?

Posted by Mercutio 2025-02-05 09:38|| 2025-02-05 09:38|| Front Page Top

#7 #4 The same rules applied throughout Soviet Union. Hint Mullah, don't use Ukrainian sources only. Check.

Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-02-05 09:54|| 2025-02-05 09:54|| Front Page Top

#8 I used European and US sources, Grom.

As a side note, don't always use Russian sources for history. The messages are usually 'tailored' for desired outcomes.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2025-02-05 11:20|| 2025-02-05 11:20|| Front Page Top

#9 I used European and US sources

Like NYT, or BBC?

My opinions on the subject comes from reading "Archipelago Gulag" & similar books on the history of Soviet Union decades ago. Also books on European history some of which were written before Ukraine was invented.

Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-02-05 11:33|| 2025-02-05 11:33|| Front Page Top

#10 Understood. Everyone has an angle.

Interesting timeline document here, though. You may have not read it before.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2025-02-05 11:43|| 2025-02-05 11:43|| Front Page Top

#11 ^I may not read it at all - I've lost an interest in Soviet history decades ago.

Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-02-05 12:00|| 2025-02-05 12:00|| Front Page Top

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