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2024-11-30 Britain
Shameful: After debate, Oxford Union votes Israel is ‘apartheid’ state committing ‘genocide’
[IsraelTimes] Controversial event at prestigious UK university results in 278 votes in favor, 59 votes against; Arab Israeli speaker removed after he calls audience ‘terrorist supporters’

A controversial debate held by the Oxford Union that discussed whether Israel is an "apartheid state responsible for genocide" devolved into a yelling match between speakers and attendees on Thursday. The event took place under tight security, as protesters demonstrated outside the building.

After the debate, the union voted on the proposition, "This House Believes Israel is an apartheid state responsible for genocide," with 278 votes in favor and 59 votes against.

The Oxford Union is a student society located in Oxford, England, and is made up almost entirely of students at the prestigious Oxford University, widely regarded as one of the best institutes for higher education in the world.

Thursday’s debate featured several prominent speakers on both sides of the topic, including pro-Israel advocates Natasha Hausdorff, a British lawyer, Jonathan Sacerdoti, a British journalist who covers the UK and Europa
...the land mass occupying the space between the English Channel and the Urals, also known as Moslem Lebensraum...
for i24 News, as well as Arab Israeli activist Yoseph Haddad, and former Hamas
..the braying voice of Islamic Resistance®,...
member-turned Israeli spy Mosab Hassan Yusef.

Arguing against Israel were US political scientist and anti-Israel activist Norman Finkelstein, Israeli-American activist and author Miko Peled, Paleostinian-American author Susan Abulhawa, and Mohammed El-Kurd, a Paleostinian writer and poet.

According to Oxford University’s student newspaper, Cherwell, the debate featured intense heckling and argument, with one audience member calling Sacerdoti a "sick motherfucker" and a "genocidal maniac" while the journalist was giving his position.

Cherwell reported that Peled said during the debate, "What happened on October 7th was not terrorism — these were acts of heroism of a people who were oppressed," and called for a Paleostinian state "from the river to the sea."

The ongoing war in Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with a rusty iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
was sparked by Hamas’s October 7, 2023, massacre, which saw some 3,000 gunnies burst across the border into Israel by land, air and sea, killing some 1,200 people and seizing 251 hostages, mostly civilians, many amid acts of brutality and sexual assault.

For her part, Abulhawa told the crowd that she "came to speak directly to Zionists: we let you into our homes when your own countries turned you away. You killed and robbed and burned and looted our lives, you carved out our hearts."

The Paleostinian poet El-Kurd argued that Zionism is "irredeemable and indefensible," and said that if the union voted in favor of calling Israel an apartheid state committing genocide, "it means that this body is catching up to the moral clarity of the global majority. It is about time and about 70 years too late."

Speaking against the proposition, meanwhile, Haddad was kicked out of the chamber for lack of decorum after calling the audience "terrorist supporters" when they booed him during his argument. As he was escorted out, the Arab-Israeli activist put on a shirt with the face of slain Hezbollah leader His Eminence Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah
...The late, lamented satrap of the Medes and the Persians in Leb...>
with the caption, "Your terrorist is dead."

Pro-Israel speaker Hausdorff called the debate a "dark moment in the Oxford Union’s history," and said that the accusation of genocide against Israel is a "slur being alleged against the real victims of genocide in this case."

Yusef, the disowned eldest son of the co-founder of Hamas who has become a pro-Israel activist, reportedly told the crowd, "Paleostinians are the most pathetic people on planet Earth," and insisted that Paleostinians are "a false identity"

At the end of the debate, the union voted in favor of the resolution 278 to 59, officially labeling Israel as apartheid and genocidal.

The union has a track record of contentious debates on Israel. In 1962, for instance, it debated whether "The Creation of the State of Israel is One of the Mistakes of the Century." Decades later, the students were still debating whether, as a 2008 motion put it, "This house believes that the State of Israel has a right to exist."

Over the years, union members have also overwhelmingly backed motions accusing Israel’s supporters of "stifling Western debate."

But anti-Israel activists haven’t had it their way on every occasion. In 2015, for instance, the US lawyer Alan Dershowitz won a debate on whether the BDS movement against Israel was wrong.

Two years before that, the union rejected a motion that argued Israel is "a force for good in the Middle East," although pro-Israel students delighted in the narrowness of their defeat, suggesting that "to get nearly 40 percent support for Israel at a British university in this day and age is a triumph."
Posted by trailing wife 2024-11-30 2024-11-30 01:11|| || Front Page|| [11139 views ]  Top
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Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-11-30 02:27||   2024-11-30 02:27|| Front Page Top

#2 Per Wikipedia, Abba Eban, complimented on his Oxford English: "Cambridge actually, but in politics one expects to be smeared."
Posted by Pancho Poodle8452 2024-11-30 02:47||   2024-11-30 02:47|| Front Page Top

#3 
Let me see if I understand the underlying Oxford Ivy League logic here?

They say an ISLAMIC faith terrorist group and its regional followers.
All SWORN to the elimination of ANY faith other than ISLAM are the victims.

Because the terrorists and their supporters got their asses handed to them for kidnapping, raping and murdering women and yes even raping children under 12 on a regular basis. A faith promised an afterlife of sleeping with a ## of temporary virgins for raping and murdering women and children of any other faith?

But the Oxford Union votes overwhelmingly (82+%) that those defending themselves from terrorists are to blame and are genocidal?

NOTE: Given the fact, just attending Oxford costs over $75k a year. It is clear the Oxford Union has 278 Uber-Rich $$ Dumbass Elite Liberals, in a bad need of a 1am wake-up call.

Posted by NN2N1 2024-11-30 03:05||   2024-11-30 03:05|| Front Page Top

#4 The King and Country Debate was a debate on 9 February 1933 at the Oxford Union Society. The motion presented, "That this House will under no circumstances fight for its King and country", passed with 275 votes for the motion and 153 against it. The motion would later be named the Oxford Oath or the Oxford Pledge.
It became one of the most controversial topics held within the Union, driving debate between the older and younger generations about patriotism and pacifism, and whether this motion would actually help or hurt war prevention efforts.
Winston Churchill claimed that the Oxford Oath affected certain decisions made by Adolf Hitler during the World War II. American pacifists would take their own version of the pledge, and several anti-war strikes would take place with the pledge as the main drive.
Posted by Albert Pelosi3459 2024-11-30 03:48||   2024-11-30 03:48|| Front Page Top

#5 There is no longer an England worthy of the name.
Posted by alanc 2024-11-30 08:55||   2024-11-30 08:55|| Front Page Top

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Posted by NoMoreBS 2024-11-30 16:17||   2024-11-30 16:17|| Front Page Top

#7 ^ AMEN
Posted by Frank G 2024-11-30 18:15||   2024-11-30 18:15|| Front Page Top

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