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2024-09-05 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Report: Families of hostages with American citizenship pushing Biden to make unilateral deal with Hamas UPDATE: NBC report lied
They can ask. I can’t imagine they’ll get the answer they want, though, no matter what they might be told.
[IsraelTimes] The families of Americans kidnapped by Hamas
..not a terrorist organization, even though it kidnaps people, holds hostages, and tries to negotiate by executing them,...
and held in Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
since October 7 are petitioning the Biden administration to cut a unilateral deal wth the Paleostinian terror group to free their loved ones, NBC News reports.

The report says that the relatives met with US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan on Sunday, hours after the IDF recovered the bodies of six hostages executed by Hamas in Gaza last week, including American-Israeli Hersh Goldberg-Polin.

It is believed that 97 of the 251 hostages kidnapped by Hamas on October 7 remain in Gaza, including seven American citizens. This count includes the bodies of at least 33 confirmed dead by the IDF, three of whom are American.

Update from the Times of Israel at 8:20 a.m. ET:
Father of US-Israeli hostage denies American families pushing Biden to make separate deal

Jonathan Dekel-Chen responds after NBC quotes sources saying US has list of prisoners that might be offered in an exchange but regards comprehensive deal as best way forward

The father of a US-Israeli held hostage in Gazoo said Thursday there is no truth to a report that the families of captives with American citizenship are petitioning the Biden administration to cut a unilateral deal with Hamas
..always the voice of sweet reason...
to free their loved ones.

Jonathan Dekel-Chen, whose son Sagui Dekel-Chen was kidnapped from Nir Oz on October 7, told Channel 12 that the report, carried by NBC News on Wednesday, is false.

"I am in continuous contact with the other American families and all levels of the US government," he said. "The report that the American families are demanding a separate US-Hamas is not correct.

"I am in the room [for the meetings administration officials hold with the families of the hostages], and anything else is speculation," he said.

Dekel-Chen added that US officials are telling him they are doing everything they can to advance the deal that is "on the table" and that they are waiting for the agreement of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his coalition partners, as well as Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar.

There are seven hostages with dual US-Israeli citizenship; four of them have been declared dead.

The NBC News report said the relatives pushed for Washington to look at other ways of securing freedom for their loved ones. It said officials told the families they would look at "every option" but that a deal between Israel and Hamas was still the best way to proceed, the report said, citing people familiar with the meeting.

Those sources told the outlet that the idea of a unilateral deal had been floated as family members and some administration officials were becoming convinced that Netanyahu will not reach an agreement with Hamas. Critics accuse Netanyahu of shying away from a deal to satisfy far-right members of his coalition, who want the war to continue until Hamas is destroyed.

Ninety-seven of the 251 hostages kidnapped by Hamas on October 7 remain in Gaza, including seven US citizens. This total includes the bodies of at least 33 confirmed dead by the IDF, three of whom are American.

In an indication that a unilateral deal is being mulled, the Biden administration has drawn up a list of prisoners held in the US that Hamas might trade in exchange for American hostages, two former and two current US officials aware of the plans told NBC. According to one official, there are five names on the list.

Current and former officials said the possible prisoners the US has to offer include the leaders of a Texas-based charity, Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development. The five heads of the charity were in 2008 convicted of sending over $12 million to Hamas. They are serving between 20 and 65 years in prison.

However,
by candlelight every wench is handsome...
one administration official told the network that the idea of cutting a separate deal with Hamas is not realistic as the US does not have enough to bargain with for the American hostages.

"Hamas wants two things that only Israel can deliver: a ceasefire and nearly 1,000 Paleostinian prisoners currently in Israeli jails," the unnamed official said. "Every other proposal has gone nowhere because that is what Hamas demands for the hostages," the official added.

NBC News said that neither the Qatar
...an emirate on the east coast of the Arabian Peninsula. It sits on some really productive gas and oil deposits, which produces the highest per capita income in the world. They piss it all away on religion, financing the Moslem Brotherhood and several al-Qaeda affiliates. Home of nutbag holy manYusuf al-Qaradawi...
i government, which has been mediating between Israel and Hamas, nor a representative of the families of US hostages would comment on the report.

On Tuesday, State Department spokesperson Matt Miller was asked during a press briefing if Washington was considering a unilateral deal with Hamas.

"Our entire focus has been on securing an agreement to get home all the hostages. That, of course, includes the American hostages," he said. "Our first priority is always the safety and security of American citizens overseas. We are focused on a deal that would bring them home, along with all the other American hostages.

Asked whether that could also mean a unilateral deal, Miller said only, "We are working on a deal to get all of them home."

In June, NBC News had a similar report of discussions for a unilateral deal, but the proposal did not advance at the time, with some senior administration officials strongly against it, the network said. US President Joe The Big Guy Biden
...46th president of the U.S. The man who made Barack Obama and Jimmy Carter look competent, if only by comparison....
also sought at the time to continue the track of obtaining a deal between Israel and Hamas to end the war.

At the time, Washington asked Qatari officials to put out feelers to Hamas, US officials told NBC News. However,
by candlelight every wench is handsome...
the move did not get off the ground, they said.
Posted by trailing wife 2024-09-05 2024-09-05 00:42|| || Front Page|| [11140 views ]  Top
 File under: Hamas 

#1 By taking hostages Hamas gained enormous and dangerous leverage, which incentivizes the taking of hostages.

The Houthis e.g. sure will be tempted to seize big cruise ships and force them to sail for Houthi controlled ports, recreating the plane hijackings of the 70s and 80s at a higher order of magnitude.
Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2024-09-05 09:21||   2024-09-05 09:21|| Front Page Top

#2 I watched Netanyahu on Fox this morning. He again said Israel had agreed to a ceasefire multiple times but Hamas refused every time. He could really blasted Biden for saying Netanyahu isn't doing enough to free the hostages. I enjoyed it.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2024-09-05 12:00||   2024-09-05 12:00|| Front Page Top

#3 ‘Killing of hostages makes it more difficult to close deal,' John Kirby told reporters

Am I crazy for wanting to rip this "man" to pieces?
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-09-05 13:59||   2024-09-05 13:59|| Front Page Top

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