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2024-06-24 -Land of the Free
Louisiana law isn't about Ten Commandments. It's Christian nationalist bait for Supreme Court.
[MSN] Spend enough time listening to politicians, and eventually, one of them will tell you the truth.
Political hit piece in the guise of news follows.
"I can't wait to be sued," Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry declared four days before signing a law last week mandating that all public school classrooms — from kindergarten to college — display a Protestant Christian version of the Ten Commandments.
Roman Catholics count them differently. I never asked how Jews number them; never seemed important. Protestants are a majority in the country, as are Christians. I doubt he'd particularly care if the Catholic numbering was used. They're the same rules. The point is, there have to be some rules, and those ten are a pretty good summation of why Judeo-Christian or any society works.
2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

3 “You shall have no other gods before me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

Now, in my agnostic opinion, if you want to make a graven image and bow down to it, go ahead. You'll go to hell if there is one. Otherwise you'll just look really stoopid to the rest of us.

Roman Catholics combine these statements into a single First Commandment. Protestants split them into two, so the Cathlic second commandment becomes "Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain," which applies to swearing oaths, not saying "damn" or "hell" or even "shucks." From there they're in agreement, even though the numbers are off by one.:
  • Remember the Sabbath (good advice, that, quite apart from religion; set aside a day a week to recuperate from the other six):

  • Honor your father and your mother (you know why that's good advice if you're a father or a mother.).

  • Thou shalt not commit murder (not even jihad, but not "thou shalt not kill anything.").

  • Thou shalt not commit adultery (Be true to your wife; nothing in there about not looking at pretty girls)

  • Thou shalt not steal (nor embazzle, cheat, cook books, or that sort of thing.).

  • Thou shalt not bear false witness. (Telling your wife she's pretty when she looks like she just tumbled out of a cement mixer is okay.)

  • Catholics split the covets into two: Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's wife, and thou shalt not covet they neighbor's goods. Protestant combine then into Thou shalt not covet.

That leaves us with seven (or eight, depending on your flavor preferences) rules that are essential to the smooth working of society. The first two (or three) might be controversial to Moslems and maybe Hindoos and such, but there's not much difference between "I am the Lord, your God" and "Allsh is God" except for the missing Mohammed part. And "thou shalt not have strange gods before me" doesn't say you can't drop a few pice or rupees into the poor box down at the temple of Vishnu.
Landry made that declaration not in his state's Capitol but nearly 600 miles away in Nashville, Tennessee, where he was the keynote speaker at a fundraiser for the Tennessee Republican Party.
I'm really not up on the Christian nationalist thing, probably because I'm agnostic. I suppose not believing the U.S.A. can financially continue trying to give money to the entire world and supporting the totality of every war being fought anywhere and supporting most currencies does make me a nationalist.
Courting his party's Christian nationalists with controversy is an excellent way to boost a fella's national profile. Getting sued and maybe having that case go to the U.S. Supreme Court, where a few justices might be willing to toss overboard decades of precedent, is even better.
That's a correct statement,though I suspect with unfriendly motives.
Landry was so giddy about those prospects that he didn't even notice when a maiden of tender years standing behind him during Wednesday's signing ceremony fainted and collapsed to the floor.
Maybe he just couldn't see her from where he was standing. I'm not sure what giddiness has to do with it. Maybe he's just not the sort of man who comes down with the vapors when somebody else does.
"If you want to respect the rule of law, you've got to start from the original law giver, which was Moses," Landry said as others rushed to the girl's aid and an analogy about priorities was born.
Posted by Fred 2024-06-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ]  Top

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Posted by Skidmark 2024-06-24 00:13||   2024-06-24 00:13|| Front Page Top

#2 Christian converts sentenced to total of 25 years in jail by Iranian judiciary - report
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-06-24 01:49||   2024-06-24 01:49|| Front Page Top

#3 Be careful louisiana
Nothing will stop islamists demanding sharia compliant public places and schools if you put religion back in
Posted by Anon1 2024-06-24 03:13||   2024-06-24 03:13|| Front Page Top

#4 #3 Only one way to communicate with Muslims.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-06-24 03:41||   2024-06-24 03:41|| Front Page Top

#5 A reminder that Christian Nationalism is 100% an FBI op.
If anyone tries that "Judeo-Christian" line on you, remind them that the Jewish faith requires access to abortion.
Posted by Pearl Hapsburg1419 2024-06-24 05:52||   2024-06-24 05:52|| Front Page Top

#6 
Reverse LAWFARE.

Do something that pushes the one religion over another to get it shot down by the US Supreme Court.

Then use the ruling to ban Christianity, and/or require equal ISLAMIC, SATANIC teachings and representation in schools.
Posted by NN2N1 2024-06-24 07:01||   2024-06-24 07:01|| Front Page Top

#7 It's a historical document whether it touches on religion or not.

BTW, the concept of 'separation of church and state' is a judicial creation/fiction rather than what the Founders intended. Their intent was to ban an official state religion/sect be it as the Church of England or the Roman Catholic church as was found in Europe at the time. It was not to ban a culture which Christianity as a whole is.
Posted by Procopius2k 2024-06-24 07:08||   2024-06-24 07:08|| Front Page Top

#8 We live in a post Constitutional banana republic. This is fair game and good move.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2024-06-24 08:22||   2024-06-24 08:22|| Front Page Top

#9 dont call it the ten commandments, call it the bill of rights and add two more...
11: no preference for skin color or shape
12: all elections hand counted paper ballots
Posted by irish rage boy 2024-06-24 08:24||   2024-06-24 08:24|| Front Page Top

#10 Save us from people who want to forcibly convert us to their religion, Christian or Muslim. Jews don't seem to do it for some reason.
Posted by jpal 2024-06-24 08:27||   2024-06-24 08:27|| Front Page Top

#11 Isn't much of our law based on Judeo-Christian precepts? The 10 Commandments are a part of these precepts.
Posted by JohnQC 2024-06-24 11:38||   2024-06-24 11:38|| Front Page Top

#12 The First Amendment guarantees freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. The Ten Commandments are Old Testament, that is to say, pre-Christianity.

If the TC offends athiests and non- Christians, I'm OK with that. It tells me a lot about where they are coming from, morality wise.
Posted by M. Murcek 2024-06-24 11:49||   2024-06-24 11:49|| Front Page Top

#13 Certainly, the country was founded by people that incorporated teachings from the Old and New Testaments into the Declaration and Constitution. In the 50’s and beyond activist judges booted God out of public life using rhetorical devices that continue to infect stupid people. Nature abhors a vacuum, so secularism filled the void in a way that has attacked all aspects of our moral character, the nuclear family and has spread misery throughout. The pendulum of iniquity has now stopped and is ready to swing in the opposite direction causing consternation among the demon possessed and journalists, but I repeat myself.
Posted by Super Hose 2024-06-24 12:35||   2024-06-24 12:35|| Front Page Top

#14 Judeo-Christian is literally a thing that does not exist. Jews do not agree to be erased or co-opted by your Noahide religion.
Posted by Pearl Hapsburg1419 2024-06-24 13:55||   2024-06-24 13:55|| Front Page Top

#15 Jews are certainly welcome among us Christians. Others who demand that we cease being Christians or confine our beliefs to an hour on Sunday are not welcome. The Declaration, Constitution, Federalist Papers, and all case law up until the last few decades will back up what I say.
Posted by Super Hose 2024-06-24 15:24||   2024-06-24 15:24|| Front Page Top

#16 Well, Pearl, Yeshua* was a Jew, his parents (regardless of linage was Jewish), his apostles were Jews.

*The name corresponds to the Greek spelling Iesous, from which, through the Latin IESVS/Iesus, comes the English spelling Jesus
Posted by Procopius2k 2024-06-24 15:29||   2024-06-24 15:29|| Front Page Top

#17 Is Herb branching out into theology now, or is this "religion expert" (#14) someone else?
Posted by M. Murcek 2024-06-24 15:34||   2024-06-24 15:34|| Front Page Top

#18 #17 Is Herb branching out into theology now

His name is Legion
Posted by grom the introspective 2024-06-24 15:39||   2024-06-24 15:39|| Front Page Top

#19  Judeo-Christian is literally a thing that does not exist. Jews do not agree to be erased or co-opted by your Noahide religion.

Are you Jewish, Pearl Hapsburg1419? Because I am, and I would argue that Judeo-Christian is most definitely a thing, encompassing those things Jewish and Christian faiths and cultures have in common, and which form a cornerstone of Western civilization.

Nor do I believe that Christianity coopts Jews by recognizing those commonalities.

Separately, anyone interested in the Jewish, original Old Testament version of the Ten Commandments, the Chabad website, among many others, has it here.

The Jews went through a conversion-by-the-sword stage when the Maccabees ruled — that’s why King Herod was Jewish instead of worshipping whichever pagan gods his ancestors had been into a few generations previously. But neither the Romans nor the Persians put up with that kind of nonsense by client kings and subject peoples — and then both Christendom and the Ummah made it very illegal for the Jews to convert anyone, even if they came asking to be converted.
Posted by trailing wife 2024-06-24 20:15||   2024-06-24 20:15|| Front Page Top

#20 Ima culturally appropriate some pastrami on rye.
Posted by M. Murcek 2024-06-24 20:27||   2024-06-24 20:27|| Front Page Top

#21 <3
Posted by trailing wife 2024-06-24 22:35||   2024-06-24 22:35|| Front Page Top

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