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2024-06-10 -Short Attention Span Theater-
[NC] Republican governor nominee Mark Robinson entertained conspiracy theories that the U.S. government was behind the attack on Pearl Harbor and death of General Patton
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news] The Republican nominee for governor in North Carolina Mark Robinson once insinuated the United States government was involved in both the attack on Pearl Harbor and the death of U.S. General George Patton as part of a conspiracy to help Joseph Stalin.

Robinson, who currently serves as the state’s lieutenant governor is now running in what is considered one of the most competitive governor races in the country in a state that is also a battleground in the presidential election come November.

In a 2018 radio interview, the host argued ‘Japan is the one who bombed us, but the most of our material, and effort went to Europe.’

‘Right. It really calls to question the motives and the suspicion around our entire introduction into the war, it really does,’ Robsinson responded. ‘It raises serious questions.’

It’s one in a long series of conspiracy theories Robinson indulged before getting into politics. He has also been accused over the years of a number of anti-semitic, homophobic and sexist comments.
Posted by Skidmark 2024-06-10 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ]  Top

#1 Let the smears begin. Now is the time to stop reading or seeing medias.
Posted by Dale 2024-06-10 03:18||   2024-06-10 03:18|| Front Page Top

#2 
1939+ lets see, Japan is making all type of threats against the USA. and we are also to toawrds them.

So DC puts 70% of Naval flee in a channel locked location accessible by the enemy.


Patton is the General that did it and is riding high on the Public opinion wagon. DC wants "Ike" (Eisenhower) though.

DC & the Rep's see he is a loose cannon and the DEM's want him. But with his openly expressed USSR remarks causes the DC Elite to worry of having a man of the people in office. Given the USSR & US Red 5th column situation brewing.
Posted by NN2N1 2024-06-10 05:25||   2024-06-10 05:25|| Front Page Top

#3 The Japanese battleship Yamamoto was not built in a day and did not use Japanese iron ore, because they didn't have any. Scrap iron was getting top dollar in pre-war USA. Japan went to war with China in Manchuria in 1931. Japan was obviously on the move.

Perhaps someone could have linked the dots.

In other news and potential anomalies:

From 1946 to November 1948, during the Tokyo Trial, the United States and Japan reached a secret deal, in which the United States obtained data on human experiments, bacteria experiments, germ warfare and gas experiments conducted by Unit 731 on the condition that the unit members were exempted from their war responsibilities. As a result, the Japanese germ war criminals escaped the Tokyo Trial.

Posted by Besoeker 2024-06-10 06:10||   2024-06-10 06:10|| Front Page Top

#4 "It’s one in a long series of conspiracy theories Robinson indulged before getting into politics. He has also been accused over the years of a number of anti-semitic, homophobic and sexist comments."

But of course.

As for Pearl Harbor...all roads lead to perfidious Albion.
Posted by DooDahMan 2024-06-10 06:55||   2024-06-10 06:55|| Front Page Top

#5 Don't confuse stupidity with conspiracy.

Moving the bulk of the Pacific Fleet from California to Pearl wasn't a good idea. Force projection of the Japanese was a lot simpler with the greatly reduced distance.

We were reading the Japanese code and knew they were going to attack - just not where. It was assumed that would be the Philippines.

Hawaii was on alert the weekend before December. That was stood down even though we had lost knowledge of where the Japanese home fleet was.

Even though we assumed it was the Philippines and they were warned upon the attack at Pearl, MacArthur and his staff allowed his airforce to be destroyed on the ground by refusing to take actions to disperse it or provide proper combat air patrol.
Posted by Procopius2k 2024-06-10 07:12||   2024-06-10 07:12|| Front Page Top

#6 Sitting ducks at Pearl Harbor.
Posted by DooDahMan 2024-06-10 07:19||   2024-06-10 07:19|| Front Page Top

#7 "Stupidity" or ignorance, senility or even inability to recall events, can be an effective cover for action.
Posted by Besoeker 2024-06-10 07:22||   2024-06-10 07:22|| Front Page Top

#8 Concentrating the fleet at Pearl Harbor was the result of pompous institutional inertia, AKA complacency, not some 4D chess conspiracy.
Posted by M. Murcek 2024-06-10 07:22||   2024-06-10 07:22|| Front Page Top

#9 ^Yeah, never attribute Malice to what can easily be explained by incompetence.

Although I have seen a lot of both at the same time from the demoncrats lately.
Posted by DarthVader 2024-06-10 08:45||   2024-06-10 08:45|| Front Page Top

#10 The actual key misstep of Pearl Harbor was used by Admiral Kimmel in his court martial defense.
While the Navy was in port, the Army was in charge of providing security. But the Army didn't see the Navy's communications, so didn't have a clue about the Japanese fleet.
"At Dawn We Slept" is a long read. Afterwards you'll know more than you wanted to about Pearl Harbor.
Examining a conspiracy theory is not the same as endorsing it.
Posted by ed in texas 2024-06-10 09:00||   2024-06-10 09:00|| Front Page Top

#11 Without getting too deep into the wherefores of the IJN's attack on Pearl harbor, read Falling Skies, Rising Sun.

In it, you will find out how the IJN got the drop on US forces, and how a lot of the strategic assumptions for "War Plan Orange" or "War Plan Rainbow," were just flat out wrong.
Posted by badanov 2024-06-10 09:38||   2024-06-10 09:38|| Front Page Top

#12 So now it’s bad if even if you don’t hold bad views but you once entertained them. It’s terrible if you shared a chunk of an Entenmenn’s Butter Loaf Cake with a 911 truth at your coffee table over a game of checkers.
Posted by Super Hose 2024-06-10 09:54||   2024-06-10 09:54|| Front Page Top

#13 ^"These who are not with us are against us" and "No mercy for the enemies of Revolution." - V. I. Lenin.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-06-10 10:36||   2024-06-10 10:36|| Front Page Top

#14 I have reached the point in my experience where I no longer discount any conspiracy theory - way too many are turning out to be true.
Posted by Glenmore 2024-06-10 12:19||   2024-06-10 12:19|| Front Page Top

#15 The operative word in "conspiracy theory" is theory.
Posted by Besoeker 2024-06-10 13:52||   2024-06-10 13:52|| Front Page Top

#16 @#13 - I thought Bush Jr. said that.
Posted by DooDahMan 2024-06-10 14:34||   2024-06-10 14:34|| Front Page Top

#17 ^ Yes, I remember when Dubya said that. Makes sense now he was cribbing from one of history's most enormous criminals.
Posted by M. Murcek 2024-06-10 14:38||   2024-06-10 14:38|| Front Page Top

#18 Phrase concept is a bit older than Dubya or Lenin.

"Whoever is not with Me is against Me, and whoever does not gather with Me scatters" (Matthew 12:30)
Posted by Mullah Richard 2024-06-10 17:01||   2024-06-10 17:01|| Front Page Top

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