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2023-08-16 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Death toll in Hawaii fires rises to 99, and likely to increase, say officials
[IsraelTimes] Historic town of Lahaine almost entirely destroyed by fires that originated in Maui; about 25% of area covered so far by cadaver dogs and searchers

The number of deaths caused by the Maui wildfires stood at 99 on Monday, a figure that is likely to increase as search crews comb neighborhoods where flames moved as fast as a mile a minute. The blazes that consumed most of the historic town of Lahaina are already the deadliest in the US in more than a century. The cause was under investigation.

Gov. Josh Green said the search will take time and asked for space to do it properly. “For those people who have walked into Lahaina because they really wanted to see, know that they’re very likely walking on iwi,” he said at a news conference on Maui, using the Hawaiian word for “bones.” In an interview with CBS aired earlier Monday, Green estimated searchers will find the remains of 10 to 20 people per day until they finish their work. "And it’s probably going to take 10 days. It’s impossible to guess, really," he said.

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As cellphone service has slowly been restored, the number of people missing dropped to about 1,300 from over 2,000, Green said.

Twenty cadaver dogs and dozens of searchers are making their way through blocks reduced to ash. As of Monday, they had searched about 25 percent of the area, up from just 3% over the weekend, said Maui Police Chief John Pelletier.

Meanwhile,
...back at the alley, Slats grabbed for his rosco...
some state officials say there is a shortage of water available for firefighters, and they blame a recent ruling by an environmental court judge. It’s part of a long-running battle between environmentalists and private companies over the decadeslong practice of diverting water from East Maui streams that started during Hawaii’s sugar plantation past.

Green said there are people fighting over access to water to fight fires. "We have a difficult time on Maui and other rural areas getting enough water for houses, for our people, for any response," he said.

Green said the attorney general’s office is reviewing decisions related to the fires.

Hawaiian Electric Co. Inc., Maui’s power provider, will cooperate with the state and do its own investigation, President and CEO Shelee Kimura said.

It’s not clear whether the utility’s equipment played any role in igniting the flames. Hawaiian Electric has faced criticism for not shutting off power as strong winds buffeted a parched area under high risk for fire.

Kimura said many factors go into a decision to cut power, including the impact on people who rely on specialized medical equipment. She also noted that shutting off power in the fire area would have knocked out water pumps.

"Even in places where this has been used, it is controversial and it’s not universally accepted," she said.

As the utility worked to fully restore power, evacuees were expected to begin moving into hotels Monday evening. Green said that 500 hotel rooms were being made available for displaced locals and an additional 500 rooms will be set aside for workers from the Federal Emergency Management Agency who are aiding in the recovery.

In addition, FEMA has started to provide $700 to displaced residents to cover the cost of food, water, first aid and medical supplies, agency administrator Deanne Criswell said Monday. The money is in addition to whatever amount residents qualify for to cover the loss of homes and personal property.

"We’re not taking anything off the table, and we’re going to be very creative in how we use our authorities to help build communities and help people find a place to stay for the longer term," Criswell said. More than 3,000 people have registered for federal assistance, according to FEMA, and that number was expected to grow.

On the water-supply issue, the deputy head of the US Fire Administration, Tonya Hoover, said she did not have details on the island’s current water supply. She said the head of her agency has been meeting with firefighters, including one who was badly hurt and hospitalized.

The Biden administration is seeking $12 billion more for the government’s disaster relief fund as part of its supplemental funding request to Congress.

Authorities had required anyone traveling into the disaster areas to get a police-issued placard, but that was suspended Monday due to overwhelming demand. Lahaina resident Kevin Eliason said when he was turned away, the line of cars with people waiting to get a placard had grown to at least 3 miles (4.8 km) long.

"It’s a joke," Eliason said. "It’s just crazy. They didn’t expect, probably, tens of thousands of people to show up there."

The blaze that swept into centuries-old Lahaina last week destroyed nearly every building in the town of 13,000. That fire has been 85% contained, according to the county. Another blaze known as the Upcountry fire has been 60% contained, officials said.

"There’s very little left there," Green said of Lahaina in a video update Sunday, adding that "an estimated value of $5.6 billion has gone away."

Even where the fire has retreated, authorities have warned that toxic byproducts may remain, including in drinking water, after the flames spewed poisonous fumes. And many people simply have no home to return to.

The Red Thingy said 575 evacuees were spread across five shelters on Monday, including the War Memorial Gymnasium in Wailuku. Among the visitors was Oprah Winfrey, who told Hawaii News Now that she delivered personal hygiene products, towels and water in recent days.

Winfrey, a part-time Maui resident, warned that news crews will eventually depart from the destruction and the world will move on. But she said that "we’re all still going to be here trying to figure out what is the best way to rebuild... I will be here for the long haul, doing what I can."

As firefighters battled the flames, a flurry of court actions were lodged last week over access to water. On Wednesday morning, Judge Jeffrey Crabtree issued an order temporarily suspending water caps he imposed for 48 hours. He also authorized water distribution as requested by Maui fire officials, the county or the state until further notice if the judge could not be reached.

But that wasn’t enough for the state attorney general’s office, which later filed a petition with the state Supreme Court blaming Crabtree for a lack of water for firefighting. The state asked the court not to let Crabtree alter the amount of water to be diverted or to put a hold on his restrictions until the petition is resolved.

The judge "substituted his judgment for that of the agency," the petition said, referring to the Board of Land and Natural Resources. "As a result, there was not enough permitted water to... battle the wildfires."

Wayne Tanaka, executive director of the Sierra Club, said Monday that the attorney general’s office exaggerated the effect of water diversion caps on firefighting.
Posted by trailing wife 2023-08-16 00:00|| || Front Page|| [27 views ]  Top

#1 
Keep reading variations of the same heads up in Darker Gray back channels.

To keep and eye out and watch the HAWAII GIS DATABASE to see who had, and who acquires the properties in the coming year or 2.
Posted by NN2N1 2023-08-16 03:58||   2023-08-16 03:58|| Front Page Top

#2 1300 missing people is a huge number.
Posted by Super Hose 2023-08-16 05:37||   2023-08-16 05:37|| Front Page Top

#3 Heck of a coincidence regards the top cop:
"Pelletier was named chief of the the Maui Police Department in 2021 after more than two decades working in Las Vegas. On Oct. 1, 2017, Pelletier was the incident commander covering the Strip when a gunman unleashed a hail of bullets on a country music festival, killing 58 people and injuring hundreds more."
In the army we refered to this as being a $hit magnet.
(Quote from Zero Hedge, BTW.)
Posted by ed in texas 2023-08-16 10:38||   2023-08-16 10:38|| Front Page Top

#4 In the army we refered to this as being a $hit magnet.

Less commonly known as a Coincidence Nexus.
Posted by Skidmark 2023-08-16 12:06||   2023-08-16 12:06|| Front Page Top

#5 1300 missing people is a huge number.

Came across a statement the other day, unconfirmed rumor here: school was closed that day so a number of people who usually were not at home, were home, and start preparing for a 500 number.

Now, school being out that day can be verified. Also, a student residency map can also be reference.

Then I watched the presser from however many days ago - houses were still smoldering. Whatever is going on, they were all in gosh golly gee time to move on mode.

Gave a bad feeling.
Posted by swksvolFF 2023-08-16 19:29||   2023-08-16 19:29|| Front Page Top

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