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2023-05-06 -Great Cultural Revolution
Electric school bus transition in Pennsylvania fraught with complications
[JustTheNews] Federal money is starting to flow for electric school buses, but the funds won’t cover all the costs of switching from diesel.

Electrifying Pennsylvania’s bus fleet – although logical in theory – proves less sensible, experts said Tuesday.

“Our industry already has been hit with a major threat … that threat is the electric school bus,” said Daniel Frye, owner of the Frye Transportation Group in Beaver County, during a hearing with the House Republican Policy Committee. “The price tag is four times more expensive than the current diesel school bus.”

Frye said small operators can’t afford electric buses — as well as rising prices for their diesel counterparts. In June 2022, he bought a diesel bus for $103,000, but by April 2023, a quote for “the same bus” came back at $143,000.

“There is a storm brewing and that is the immense increase in the operational cost due to the electric school bus,” Frye said.

Federal money is starting to flow for electric school buses, but the funds won’t cover all the costs of switching from diesel. In October, the Biden administration announced $1 billion would support the purchase of 2,300 electric school buses nationally. Another $4 billion would be distributed through 2026 for electric and low-emission buses powered with alternative fuels, such as propane or natural gas.

The lion’s share of that funding, though, may end up electric anyway. In 2022, the $1 billion for buses was meant to be split 50/50 between electric and low-emission buses, but was later revised to go 95% for electric “after an overwhelming number of requests from school districts for the electric option,” E&E News reported.

School districts who received those funds also got $20,000 for charging stations, but E&E News noted that the funds “might not go far enough to provide all the plugs and wires a bus depot needs.”

The federal grants might also increase costs for non-electric buses.

“The federal grant program: You take the $400,000 electric bus, and the grant is gonna fill the difference between that and the price of a new diesel (bus), which is why the price of new diesel is increasing rapidly,” Frye said.

Despite the cost issue, experts weren’t totally opposed to electric buses. Switching too quickly, however, comes with its own pitfalls.

“Let’s slow down, pump the brakes, and see how this will pan out, especially for school transportation that is funded by taxpayers,” said Aaron Sepkowski, president of Pocono Transportation and vice president of the Pennsylvania School Bus Association.

Todd Rittenhouse, owner of Rittenhouse Bus Lines, said he’s weighed the pros and cons of electrifying his fleet and was left with too many questions – especially in rural areas.

“We’ve looked at electric buses … the biggest thing to say is they don’t fit all applications,” he said.

He referenced Uniontown, a rural school district, being 52 miles long with an average route for a school bus being more than 100 miles long.

“Does an electric school bus with a possible range, on a good day, of 130 miles make it? Maybe not,” he said. “Those are the things you have to consider.”

“On top of that, for electric buses, the other issue we don’t understand yet because we don’t have enough data is the environmental conditions drastically affect the capacity of the batteries,” he added.

For city bus fleets, electrification has not always lived up to its promises, either.

Though electric buses can have lower maintenance and fuel costs, and lower emissions, they have their own mechanical issues. Cities like Philadelphia, Los Angeles, and Madison, Wisconsin have had significant performance issues with their electric buses, as The Center Square previously reported.
Posted by Skidmark 2023-05-06 03:00|| || Front Page|| [18 views ]  Top

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Posted by Skidmark 2023-05-06 03:06||   2023-05-06 03:06|| Front Page Top

#3 Make a rule that any day the bus runs out of juice before reaching the school, the kiddies on board get to skip school that day.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-05-06 08:00||   2023-05-06 08:00|| Front Page Top

#4 “On top of that, for electric buses, the other issue we don’t understand yet because we don’t have enough data is the environmental conditions drastically affect the capacity of the batteries,” he added.

...Mother Nature is gonna take care of that for you, trust me.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2023-05-06 12:03||   2023-05-06 12:03|| Front Page Top

#5 Keep them on the bus. Let them experience their green future.
Posted by Super Hose 2023-05-06 12:03||   2023-05-06 12:03|| Front Page Top

#6  such as propane or natural gas.

But you can't cook with it? Hmmmmmmmmmm
Posted by AlanC 2023-05-06 12:28||   2023-05-06 12:28|| Front Page Top

#7 Wait until it's cold out (which happens often during certain months in Pennsylvania) and they have to run the cab heaters (yay...electric!) to keep the kiddies warm.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2023-05-06 14:48||   2023-05-06 14:48|| Front Page Top

#8 If it's about energy saving, think how much they could save by closing the gummint skoolz entirely.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-05-06 15:00||   2023-05-06 15:00|| Front Page Top

#9 Might be cheaper to rebuild the neighborhood schools they consolidated in the 1970’s and have the kids just walk to school
Posted by Airandee 2023-05-06 15:53||   2023-05-06 15:53|| Front Page Top

#10 Mullah Richard In the late 50's early 60's we didn't have heaters on the buss. Even in middle Alabama it danged cold on those busses.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2023-05-06 17:08||   2023-05-06 17:08|| Front Page Top

#11 Yeah, I stood at the bus stop in those PeeAye winters. Only difference on the bus was you were out of the snow and wind.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-05-06 17:24||   2023-05-06 17:24|| Front Page Top

#12 Epstein's Mother's note: "Epstein was late because they was trying to heat the bus and some girl was charging her phone too"
Posted by Frank G 2023-05-06 18:40||   2023-05-06 18:40|| Front Page Top

#13 ^ Not that Epstein. Though, that Epstein would have been interested in the grade-school girl on the bus...
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-05-06 18:43||   2023-05-06 18:43|| Front Page Top

#14 heh
Posted by Frank G 2023-05-06 18:53||   2023-05-06 18:53|| Front Page Top

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