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2023-02-09 Government Corruption
Richmond EFFBEEYE Field Office authored a recently-released report that warns the nation apparently faces a serious threat from Catholics who prefer the Latin Mass.
[RedState] At a time when the rate of attacks on Catholic churches is increasing–a study found 278 such attacks since 2020 alone–the FBI has decided now is the time to label traditional Catholics as purveyors of anti-Semitism and white supremacy. A so-called “intelligence analyst” at the Richmond Field Office authored a recently-released report that warns the nation apparently faces a serious threat from Catholics who prefer the Latin Mass. The analyst also coined two fancy new acronyms: Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremists (RMVEs) and Radical-Traditionalist Catholics (RTCs).

The report is long on accusations and short on actual evidence that there’s an existential threat from Catholics, who prefer monks chanting to nuns playing folk songs on tambourines. RTCs seem to really rankle the author:

RTCs are “typically characterized by the rejection of the Second Vatican Council.” The writer makes an unsubstantiated leap that a preference for the Catholic Mass in Latin instead of the vernacular and a number of more traditional views on other world religions can amount to an “adherence to anti-Semitic, anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ and white supremacist ideology.”

As someone who racked up 12 years of Catholic school in the post-Vatican II 1970s and 1980s (see above reference to nuns wielding tambourines), I can say without hesitation that longing for pre-Vatican II traditions is a sign merely that many Catholics see value in them. It certainly isn’t a sign that they are plotting to bring down the country, and the report fails to provide an iota proof to support that supposition.

Instead, it relies on the discredited Southern Poverty Law Center (even pre-Elon Musk Twitter didn’t trust them) and its list of “Radical Traditional Catholicism Hate Groups.” According to one source, “The SPLC appears to be a source for the intelligence analyst’s beliefs that RTCs exist and that they are anti-Semitic. The SPLC description for this “hate group” states RTCs “may make up the largest single group of serious anti-semites in America.”

Other sources for this attack on Christians include the left-leaning Salon and The Atlantic. These two leftist publications regularly demean and slander conservatives–and it seems their inclusion in this FBI report is merely to tie Catholics to right-leaning political performance artists like Nick Fuentes and Milo Yiannopolis, whose tired schtick appeals to lonely teenage boys and certainly doesn’t intersect with the Catholic Church in the Venn diagram of life in the United States.

So, what is the FBI to do about those pesky Catholics and their rosary-praying ways? Infiltrate them, apparently. This:

The speculative increase in RMVE interactions with RTC leads the writer to suggest mitigation strategies, including recruiting Confidential Human Sources (“source development”), tripwire, and liaison contacts. Tripwires and liaisons are overt contacts with trusted members of a community or an industry. They can advise law enforcement about potentially illegal activity. Due to the fact that “white supremacy” is itself a First Amendment-protected belief, to say nothing of proponents of the most established Christian denomination in the world, the Bureau tries to cover documents like these with a caveat excusing their intrusion into the sacrosanct grounds of free exercise of religion and free association. In another typical intrusion into First Amendment concerns, the document implies a strategy of monitoring social media for RTC ideology in online posts.

I mean, the FBI is welcome to infiltrate the weekly Knights of Columbus meeting, but they’ll likely to be disappointed to find out that insurrection isn’t on the menu, but BBQ chicken and a planning meeting for a Toys for Tots drive. It’s just more of the same from the left, who are looking for any means necessary to attack Christians and conservatives. The compiler of this report is acting with a clear bias, which is not surprising in this day and age when the FBI is weaponized to act against every day Americans.

Super Devout Catholic (Just Ask Him) President Joe Biden, who’s been known to wield the FBI like a cudgel, was unavailable for comment.
Posted by NoMoreBS 2023-02-09 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11 views ]  Top

#1 This is just fucking stupid. I would guess that Catholics who prefer the Latin mass are probably the least likely to start or support an insurrection.
But as the article says, this is just part of the government's war on Christians in general, and Catholics in particular.
My guess is that they don't like the Church's opposition to abortion, and the fact that it doesn't support the LGBQT+ agenda.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia  2023-02-09 00:19||   2023-02-09 00:19|| Front Page Top

#2 Anti-Christ Marxism.
Posted by Mad Eye Omeretch7959 2023-02-09 00:52||   2023-02-09 00:52|| Front Page Top

#3 ^^^ A.K.A Deep State.
Posted by Mad Eye Omeretch7959 2023-02-09 00:53||   2023-02-09 00:53|| Front Page Top

#4 The LatinX mass though is A-OK at the J. Edgar Hoover Building.
Posted by Thruter Gloluger6393 2023-02-09 02:36||   2023-02-09 02:36|| Front Page Top

#5 The Bureau would tell us more about these threats, but we would have to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) similar to that signed by their former Twitter agents of disinformation.

All for the sake of transparency and freedom of information of course.

Thank you E. Musk for outing these Goebbelesque 'Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda (RMVP)' SOB's.

Yes, RMVP. How's that for a steaming hot acronym ?

Posted by Besoeker 2023-02-09 03:30||   2023-02-09 03:30|| Front Page Top

#6 Black Masses Matter
Posted by Hupavigum Thith4894 2023-02-09 03:39||   2023-02-09 03:39|| Front Page Top

#7 Gay teacher is FIRED from Catholic school after colleagues found photo of her kissing her girlfriend: Colorado diocese defends decision because she broke her contract and 'promise to parents'
Posted by Skidmark 2023-02-09 06:15||   2023-02-09 06:15|| Front Page Top

#8 FBI delende est.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2023-02-09 09:02||   2023-02-09 09:02|| Front Page Top

#9 So let's recap: FBI announces construction of monstrous new fortress twice the size of Pentagon, then announces it has ID'd and fixed a target. We know what comes next.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2023-02-09 09:16||   2023-02-09 09:16|| Front Page Top

#10 #8 - you beat me to it. Let me digress anyway. If "Bureau" comes from the corresponding French word (which is masculine), then the corresponding sentence should read: "FBI delendus est"
Posted by Gromble Dribble4342 2023-02-09 10:55||   2023-02-09 10:55|| Front Page Top

#11 Better shut that border down then.

This goes with a broader narrative happening. Such as, "The only thing dangerous about a drag queen show is if a Catholic with a gun shows up."
Posted by swksvolFF 2023-02-09 10:59||   2023-02-09 10:59|| Front Page Top

#12 #10 yeah didn't catch that at first, but then thought that if the FBI were led by "real" men, we wouldn't be having this conver.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2023-02-09 11:59||   2023-02-09 11:59|| Front Page Top

#13 O tempora! O mores!
Posted by York Harding 2023-02-09 12:05||   2023-02-09 12:05|| Front Page Top

#14 They can prey my rosary from my cold dead hand … as I whisper, Hail Holy Queen …”
Posted by Super Hose 2023-02-09 12:26||   2023-02-09 12:26|| Front Page Top

#15 ^ Careful, the Rosary was specifically cited as now being "problematic"
Posted by Rex Mundi 2023-02-09 13:07||   2023-02-09 13:07|| Front Page Top

#16 What did the Soviets call their Confidential Human Sources?
Posted by mossomo 2023-02-09 13:40||   2023-02-09 13:40|| Front Page Top

#17 I went to Latin Mass when I was a kid (not even Catholic) in Boy Scouts- guess I am a target.
Posted by Glenmore  2023-02-09 15:33||   2023-02-09 15:33|| Front Page Top

#18 Just reported that FBI has been forced to rescind the report on Racical Catholic Extremists after it was revealed that they had ONCE AGAIN, relied on "reporting" from SPLC, The Atlantic, and Salon to compile this report. Bastids!
Posted by Rex Mundi 2023-02-09 17:21||   2023-02-09 17:21|| Front Page Top

#19 Legal Insurrection reports FBI HQ retracts Richmond field office reco.
Posted by trailing wife 2023-02-09 17:48||   2023-02-09 17:48|| Front Page Top

#20 
I'm wondering if this is less about threats to America, and more about a jobs program for the Feebs. The shine has certainly rubbed off FBI's crime fighting reputation in the last few years, but pretty much every time there is an 'incident', it turns out the perp was a known wolf. Lots of paper, diligently maintained. The Tsarnaev brothers, for example. So they are good at that.

Recently, the FBI has gone expeditionary, finding small 'threats' (aka a bunch of guys talking shit in a bar), encouraging them with money and support, and eventually creating a plot they can stop. Consider the Governor Gretchen Whitmer affair where roughly half of the 14 or so plotters were on the payroll, including one of the master minds providing money and travel arrangements. The final plot they settled on was to set the Governor adrift in a boat in Lake Michigan. In shipping lanes. During fishing season. With a nearby Coast Guard station.

So Special Agent Bob goes to the weekly K of C meeting, chats up some folks, maybe finds somebody disgruntled or not, but that only means Agent Bob needs more time and money to hunt up the food change. Agent Bob's boss decides to add addition agents to the project and away we go! Call it the FBI Full Employment Program.
Posted by SteveS 2023-02-09 18:29||   2023-02-09 18:29|| Front Page Top

#21 ^ I'm at the point where I don't talk to strangers in bars. Not worth it.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-02-09 18:36||   2023-02-09 18:36|| Front Page Top

#22 For crying out loud. If some GOP man with actual balls gets in the White House he is going to have to pledge to arrest the entire 7th floor management to get my vote.

Throw Barr in with them.
Posted by Woodrow 2023-02-09 18:39||   2023-02-09 18:39|| Front Page Top

#23 Ref #20: If you know the identity or whereabouts of these two persons of interest..... you know who to call.
Posted by Besoeker 2023-02-09 18:43||   2023-02-09 18:43|| Front Page Top










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