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2022-11-02 -Land of the Free
Supreme Court Poised to Strike Down Racial Preferences
[Townhall] Lawsuits against Harvard University and the University of North Carolina are exposing the crude and dehumanizing racial sorting that goes on in the admissions offices at elite universities.

The application form asks young people to check a box identifying themselves as either "(1) Asian, (2) Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander, (3) Hispanic, (4) White, (5) African American or (6) Native American." White Hispanics with ancestors from Spain are lumped in with Central American immigrants. The Black child of a Harvard-trained doctor or diplomat checks the same box as a Black applicant living in a homeless shelter. The Asian category absurdly covers 60% of the world's population, from China to Japan to India.

Applicants who mark Hispanic or African American win acceptance with test scores and grades far below what whites or Asians, on average, need to get in, according to data presented to the court.

Broad categories are appropriate for sorting zoo animals -- reptiles over here, mammals over there -- but it's no way to recognize the humanity and individual merit of college applicants.

On Monday, the Supreme Court justices grilled the Harvard and UNC attorneys. The questions indicate the Court is likely to outlaw using race to determine who is accepted.

Universities could still consider the achievements of applicants who convey in their personal essay or interviews that they have overcome hardships related to their race. Patrick Strawbridge, a lawyer for Students for Fair Admissions, which brought the lawsuits, explained what SFFA objects to is the consideration of "race by itself."
Posted by Besoeker 2022-11-02 03:54|| || Front Page|| [11141 views ]  Top

#1 Applicants who mark Hispanic or African American win acceptance with test scores and grades far below what whites or Asians, on average, need to get in, according to data presented to the court.

The fundementum of Affirmative Action. Admissions offices at elite universities are simply in league with government and industry. After five or six decades, a practice that should be obvious to the casual observer.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-11-02 04:05||   2022-11-02 04:05|| Front Page Top

#2 Wakanda denied?
Posted by Dron66046 2022-11-02 04:24||   2022-11-02 04:24|| Front Page Top

#3 ...Let me put on my turban, polish up the crystal ball, and make a couple predictions:

First, if AA is struck down, no one is going to notice, because the Biden Administration will refuse to enforce it.

Second, look for the media to start hitting GOP candidates with "Enforce = Racism".

Third, the schools will stand up and refuse to change their ways, claiming that it's the same as standing up against the Fugitive Slave Laws, etc.

Mike
Posted by MikeKozlowski 2022-11-02 06:10||   2022-11-02 06:10|| Front Page Top

#4 ^ Problem with that scenario is a flood of lawsuits for "unequal before the law" treatment.

No matter what the "great cause" may be, there will always be lawyers ready to go after the deepest pockets.

Bring it.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-11-02 06:22||   2022-11-02 06:22|| Front Page Top

#5 ^ Until, they are hit with $$ damages. The discrimination is a real and personal damage. Sue the shit out of the agencies and the staff individually
Posted by Frank G 2022-11-02 06:31||   2022-11-02 06:31|| Front Page Top

#6 The Universities could still admit their target audience. Eliminate use of test scores or grades. Use only alumni recommendation for applicants.
Posted by Airandee 2022-11-02 06:35||   2022-11-02 06:35|| Front Page Top

#7 Don’t forget about preferences for contracts to “minority” owned businesses.
Posted by Lowspark 2022-11-02 07:12||   2022-11-02 07:12|| Front Page Top

#8 Next:
Bank loan paperwork
Utility applications
Voter registration
Credit Card applications
Marriage licenses
US Mail registration
Car Insurance
...
HA! Very unlikely.
Posted by Skidmark 2022-11-02 07:33||   2022-11-02 07:33|| Front Page Top

#9 And now we'll spend another decade of renaming abhorrent practices. Until the miscreants personally pay the price, they'll have institutions suck up the fines. Its always easy spending other people's money.
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-11-02 07:48||   2022-11-02 07:48|| Front Page Top

#10 (1) Asian, (2) Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander, (3) Hispanic, (4) White, (5) African American or (6) Native American

(7) BIPOC of Indeterminate Status
(8) Trans
(9) Transitioning Trans
(10) Trans-species
(11) Furry
(12) Deplorable

Posted by Kojo Ghibelline2075 2022-11-02 08:26||   2022-11-02 08:26|| Front Page Top

#11 So, like, is it a stretch to make a Plessy v Ferguson comparison here, a kind of "separate but equal is inherently unequal"?

This is years/decades too late. It's about time.
Posted by DooDahMan 2022-11-02 08:32||   2022-11-02 08:32|| Front Page Top

#12 Affirmative action should have been outlawed when Bakke won his case. Instead SCROTUS does what it does best, dance around the issue instead of just getting a spine and deciding it.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-11-02 08:53||   2022-11-02 08:53|| Front Page Top

#13 Politicians did nothing, either, much like abortion...both sides played that issue for almost 50 years.
Posted by DooDahMan 2022-11-02 09:00||   2022-11-02 09:00|| Front Page Top

#14 In her 2003 opinion O’Connor said aff-action should be phased out in “25 years”

Time’s up, eh?
Posted by Enver Javith5981 2022-11-02 09:27||   2022-11-02 09:27|| Front Page Top

#15  M. Murcek good luck finding a prosecutor or judge willing to adjudicate the case.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2022-11-02 09:50||   2022-11-02 09:50|| Front Page Top

#16 The unspoken corollary for those prestigious universities is that the disparity in admissions will also reflect an eventual disparity in competence. Once in, a pattern of race-based failure rates will be equally unacceptable, and compensation in grading and performance will leak in the system as academic integrity also falters. So in time, a minority graduate from the ivies will be presumed to be of lesser skill and ability, since merit and achievement are suspect. Absent genuine, credible meritocracy, the extreme cost of such institutions will spell their own extinction.
Posted by NoMoreBS 2022-11-02 13:43||   2022-11-02 13:43|| Front Page Top

#17 Government denial is also a river in Afrika.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-11-02 13:51||   2022-11-02 13:51|| Front Page Top

#18 Seeing as at least two SCOTUS appointees were blatant AA beneficiaries, I dont see them supporting this
Posted by Regular joe 2022-11-02 14:35||   2022-11-02 14:35|| Front Page Top

#19 affirmative action = lyndon johnson = blacks preferred
Posted by irish rage boy 2022-11-02 15:50||   2022-11-02 15:50|| Front Page Top

#20 I won’t believe it until I read the leaked majority opinion.
Posted by Super Hose 2022-11-02 16:43||   2022-11-02 16:43|| Front Page Top

#21 ^ Nice
Posted by Frank G 2022-11-02 19:41||   2022-11-02 19:41|| Front Page Top

#22 "We racists could not have known better!"
"We followed the law to the letter."
"Our media taught us--"
"And preferences bought us..."
"But since we're betrayed
by this world that we've made..."
"All the evidence goes in the shredder."

Confederates?
Posted by Germany and Russia 2022-11-02 23:55||   2022-11-02 23:55|| Front Page Top

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