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2022-10-30 -Short Attention Span Theater-
Fred Reed's 'guess' - America's Unable To ‘Absorb' A Russian First Nuclear Strike
[Barely a Blog] Pleasurable excitement ripples through the usual boredom of Washington, and the resident curiosities enjoy exquisite frissons, over the possibility of nuclear war over the Ukraine. Some official of the EU, or maybe it was the mediocrity in the White House with the truculence problem, but anyway one of the geniuses ruling the planet’s fate has said that if Russia used nukes, the Russian army would be destroyed, grrr, bowwow, woof. Exactly how it would be destroyed, the sayer didn’t say. Anyway, the threats and counterthreats swirl around the idea that a nuke war between Russia and the West might occur. Maybe, with tactical nukes in the Ukraine, about which nobody gives a rat’s nether region. The world is full of damned fools.

But:

The general staffs of both Russia and China are, whatever else you may think of them, sane. They know of America’s massive nuclear forces. They are not going to launch an atomic war. Sane behavior cannot be relied on with Washington’s second-rate lawyers, but the generals in the Pentagon are not crazy. They like hobbyist wars and big budgets, but if Biden ordered a nuclear strike, they would be likely to suddenly remember that Congress has to declare war and, seeing that their radar screens were empty of incoming missiles, and say, "Mr. President, we are not authorized to do that." And recommend a committee.

What would such a war be like? Let’s guess.

America is fragile. We don’t notice because it works smoothly and because when a local catastrophe occurs—earthquake, hurricane, tornado—the rest of the country steps in to remedy things. The country can handle normal and regional catastrophes. But nuclear war is neither normal nor regional. Very few warheads would serve to wreck the United States beyond recovery for decades. This should be clear to anyone who actually thinks about it.

Defense is impossible. Missile defenses are meaningless except as money funnels to the arms industry. This is not the place to go into decoys, hypersonics, Poseidon, maneuvering glide vehicles, bastion stationing, MIRV, just plain boring old cruise missiles, and so on. Coastal cities are particularly easy targets, being vulnerable to submarine-launched sea-skimming missiles. Washington, New York, Boston, San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle for starters, all gone.

A modern country is a system of systems of systems, interdependent and interconnected—water, electricity, manufacturing, energy, telecommunications, transportation, pipelines, and complex supply chains. These are interconnected, interdependent, and rely on large numbers of trained people showing up for work. Modern warheads are not the popgun squibs of Hiroshima. Talking of repair any time soon after the nuclear bombing of a conurbation is foolish because the city would have many hundreds of thousand of dead, housing destroyed, massive fires, horrendously burned people with no hope of medical care, and, in general, populations too focused on staying alive to worry about abstractions like supply chains.

The elimination of transportation might cause more death than the bombs. Cities, suburbs, and towns cannot feed themselves. They rely on a constant, heavy influx of food grown in remote regions. This food is shipped by rail or truck to distribution centers, as for example Chicago, whence it is transshipped to cities like New York. Heavy megatonnage on Chicago would disrupt rail lines and trucking firms. Trains and trucks need gasoline and diesel which come from somewhere, presumably in pipelines. These, broken by the blast, burning furiously, would take time to repair. Time is what cities would not have.

What would happen in, say, New York City even if, improbably, it were not bombed? Here we will ignore the likelihood of sheer, boiling panic and resultant chaos on learning that much of the country had been flattened. In the first few days there would be panic buying with shelves at supermarkets being emptied. Hunger would soon become serious. By day four, people would be hunting each other with knives to get their food. By the end of the second week, people would be eating each other. Literally. This happens in famines.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-10-30 08:07|| || Front Page|| [12 views ]  Top

#1 By day four, people would be hunting each other with knives to get their food. By the end of the second week, people would be eating each other. Literally. This happens in famines.

Nearly there now.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-10-30 08:12||   2022-10-30 08:12|| Front Page Top

#2 This WILL happen sometime, maybe not here but somewhere. To be honest I'm a little surprised it hasn't happened already. It won't be Russia, China, (probably not) Iran, NK, but some crazy (Islamic) group.
Posted by Sonny Black 2022-10-30 08:28||   2022-10-30 08:28|| Front Page Top

#3 Remember when the DC deep state were absolutely terrified that Trump was going to start a nuclear war? And this was the biggest danger to civilization that we had ever faced?

Now they're salivating at the thought of starting a nuclear war. And being against nuclear holocaust and the destruction of the world means you must be on Putin's payroll. It's grounds to censor you.
Posted by Spike the Hairy6811 2022-10-30 08:37||   2022-10-30 08:37|| Front Page Top

#4 Missile defenses are meaningless except as money funnels to the arms industry.

Untrue. They are great at stopping one to a few missiles like from North Korea or a long range cruise missile attack on Guam from China.

They are not meant to stop 5,000 ballistic warheads converging on the US. There are simply to few of them and they aren't designed to track and go after that many targets.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-30 09:23||   2022-10-30 09:23|| Front Page Top

#5 Safeguard was designed to hose incoming MIRVs. Congress de-activated it the day it became operational.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-10-30 09:29||   2022-10-30 09:29|| Front Page Top

#6 The error in this article is a lack of understanding of the power of a nuclear weapon
ONE 1.0 megaton nuke on Chicago would erase downtown and all the suburbs for 10 miles in all directions
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom  2022-10-30 09:41||   2022-10-30 09:41|| Front Page Top

#7 Dont need to bomb a city. Just stop the food trucks from moving.
Posted by BrerRabbit 2022-10-30 09:49||   2022-10-30 09:49|| Front Page Top

#8 Elie's will or have developed human meat gourmet delights. Tastes like chicken. Aborted babies ,fine dining. Home delivery within 30 minuets. Stranded Japanese lacking supplies simply went to prisoners to carve out parts as needed. No refrigeration so you removed what you could to allow prisoner to live.
Posted by Dale 2022-10-30 10:47||   2022-10-30 10:47|| Front Page Top

#9 OK, forgot the T.
Posted by Dale 2022-10-30 10:51||   2022-10-30 10:51|| Front Page Top

#10 Just stop the food trucks from moving.

I believe the 'brains' in Da Capital are working on that now without having to resort to a nuclear exchange.
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-10-30 11:18||   2022-10-30 11:18|| Front Page Top

#11 #6 here is your tool.
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-10-30 11:22||   2022-10-30 11:22|| Front Page Top

#12 There's no actual need to target large, Democratically controlled cities. They are destroying themselves.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-10-30 11:42||   2022-10-30 11:42|| Front Page Top

#13 This came so close to happening 27 October 1962. See this.
Posted by Gromble Dribble4342 2022-10-30 14:50||   2022-10-30 14:50|| Front Page Top

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