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2022-07-19 -Lurid Crime Tales-
US authorities name Indiana mall shooter as Jonathan Sapirman, 20
More on this story from yesterday. It looks like a normal suicide by cop, long planned.
[IsraelTimes] Police say gunman spent hour in bathroom, possibly assembling rifle, before firing on shoppers, killing three; ’Good Samaritan’ praised for using lethal fire to take out shooter

A 20-year-old man likely assembled a rifle in the bathroom of a suburban Indianapolis shopping mall before shooting five people in the food court, killing three of them before an armed shopper fatally shot him, US authorities said Monday.

Jonathan Sapirman of Greenwood apparently was facing eviction before he shot up the Greenwood Park Mall shortly before it closed Sunday evening, the city’s police chief, James Ison, said at a news conference.

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Sapirman continued shooting people until he was shot and killed by 22-year-old Elisjsha Dicken, of Seymour, a city about 45 miles (72 kilometers) south of Greenwood, who was shopping with his girlfriend, Ison said, calling Dicken’s quick action "nothing short of heroic."

"Many more people would have died last night if not for a responsible armed citizen," said the chief, noting that authorities were still trying to determine a motive for the attack.

The Johnson County and Marion County coroners’ offices identified the slain victims as a married Indianapolis couple — Pedro Pineda, 56, and Rosa Mirian Rivera de Pineda, 37 — and Victor Gomez, 30, also of Indianapolis. A woman and a 12-year-old girl who was hit by shrapnel were maimed in the attack, police said.

Although authorities said Dicken was legally armed, the mall prohibits people from carrying weapons on its property. The mall issued a statement Monday saying it grieves for the victims and praising Dicken’s "heroic actions." It didn’t mention its no-weapons policy and its operator, the Simon Property Group, didn’t respond to a request for comment.

As of July 1, Indiana law allows anyone age 18 or older to carry a handgun in public except for those prohibited for reasons such as having a felony conviction, facing a restraining order or having a dangerous mental illness as determined by a court. Indiana’s Republican-dominated Legislature retained provisions in the law that allow private property owners to prohibit firearms.

Authorities said Sunday that four of the victims were female and one was male, but they corrected that Monday to two males and three females.

Ison said Sapirman entered the mall and walked into a bathroom, where he spent about an hour before he emerged and opened fire. He said Sherlocks believe Sapirman spent that time preparing and possibly assembling a disassembled rifle that he had brought in his backpack. He ended up firing 24 rounds within two minutes.

Ison said Sapirman used an AR-15-style rifle during the shooting and that Sherlocks found another one in the bathroom. They also found a handgun on Sapirman, who was wearing a waistband holster and had several magazines that contained more than 100 rounds of ammunition.

Although police don’t know a motive for the attack, Sapirman’s relatives told Sherlocks that he recently received notice that he was being evicted from his apartment, though Ison said authorities were still trying to confirm that. Relatives also said Sapirman resigned from a warehouse job in May, he said.

"Right now we have no motive. His family members that we spoke to, they were just as surprised as everyone else was. They said there were no indicators that he was violent mostly peaceful or unstable," Ison said.

The chief said Dicken fired 10 rounds from his handgun, and that as he fired, Sapirman "attempted to retreat back into the restroom and failed, and fell to the ground after being shot."

"He engaged the gunman from quite a distance with a handgun and was very proficient in that, very tactically sound. And as he moved to close in on the suspect, he was also motioning for people to exit behind him," Ison said of Dicken.

Sapirman had a juvenile record, including for a fight at school and an incident where he bravely ran away from home, but he had no criminal record as an adult, the chief said.

He said relatives told Sherlocks that Sapirman has been practicing shooting at a gun range, and that records obtained by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives confirmed he had frequented the range and bought ammunition there over the past two years.

Ison said officers recovered a cellphone from a toilet in the mall bathroom that they believe Sapirman placed there. At Sapirman’s apartment, they found a laptop and can of butane inside the oven, which was on and set to a high temperature, the chief said without elaborating.

The cellphone and the laptop, which was damaged by the oven’s heat, will be analyzed by the FBI
...Formerly one of the world's premier criminal investigation organizations, something for a nation to be proud of. Now it's a political arm of the Deep State oligarchy that is willing to trump up charges, suppress evidence, or take out insurance policies come election time...
, and that "we are very curious to have those analyzed," he said.

Mark Myers, the mayor of Greenwood, a city of roughly 60,000 people just south of Indianapolis, said the grieving community is shocked to be the scene of a mass shooting.

"I don’t want to be among the mayors that has to share these statements. But sadly, I am," he said. "I grieve for these senseless killings, and I ache for the scars that are left behind on the victims and on our community."
Posted by trailing wife 2022-07-19 07:16|| || Front Page|| [18 views ]  Top

#1 It didn’t mention its no-weapons policy and its operator, the Simon Property Group, didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Cause it doesn't want to lose its pants in pending law suits that it help create the environment that permitted the shooting in the first place while failing to provide adequate protection or deterrent.
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-07-19 08:25||   2022-07-19 08:25|| Front Page Top

#2 Any bets he was also a known wolf?
Posted by DarthVader 2022-07-19 08:31||   2022-07-19 08:31|| Front Page Top

#3 No bets, DarthVader: From deeper in the article:

Sapirman had a juvenile record, including for a fight at school and an incident where he bravely ran away from home, but he had no criminal record as an adult, the chief said.

He said relatives told Sherlocks that Sapirman has been practicing shooting at a gun range, and that records obtained by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives confirmed he had frequented the range and bought ammunition there over the past two years.


Posted by trailing wife 2022-07-19 08:43||   2022-07-19 08:43|| Front Page Top

#4 Bad guy brought a weapon to the "no weapons" area first. The two sorta cancel each other out.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-07-19 08:45||   2022-07-19 08:45|| Front Page Top

#5 I was unaware the ATF tracked ammo purchases.
Posted by Vespasian Ebboting9735 2022-07-19 08:45||   2022-07-19 08:45|| Front Page Top

#6 

Political Authorities, having had time to clean up Social media etc...

We now have a name.

Let's look at the logic of this quickly dispatched nut-job provided us.

He owns a $1,500+ weapon and is facing eviction?
Posted by NN2N1 2022-07-19 08:46||   2022-07-19 08:46|| Front Page Top

#7 ^ #5 - and range time, it appears.
Posted by Bobby 2022-07-19 09:08||   2022-07-19 09:08|| Front Page Top

#8 ATF - all too fat

Posted by Skidmark 2022-07-19 09:47||   2022-07-19 09:47|| Front Page Top

#9 'Two chairs' Cindy and the 'breakfast taco'....are they holding hands?
Posted by Besoeker 2022-07-19 09:54||   2022-07-19 09:54|| Front Page Top

#10 Ha ha ha
Posted by Dron66046 2022-07-19 10:16||   2022-07-19 10:16|| Front Page Top

#11 Surprisingly not a three name shooter
Posted by Cloluck Bourbon1058 2022-07-19 11:07||   2022-07-19 11:07|| Front Page Top

#12 i would like to no more on the tracking of ammo purchases and tracking range time. Anybody know a range owner who they could ask if they have to report these issues?
Posted by Chris 2022-07-19 11:41||   2022-07-19 11:41|| Front Page Top

#13 I have to show my DL if I go to the range in Daytona. So I'd imagine that sort of record keeping gets snarfed up by ATF. I can't say what ammo reporting is like, but if I pay cash, all they'd have is maybe a surveillance cam image, if that.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-07-19 11:50||   2022-07-19 11:50|| Front Page Top

#14 Whatever happened to mall cops?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-07-19 12:43||   2022-07-19 12:43|| Front Page Top

#15 Sapirman had a juvenile record, including for a fight at school and an incident where he bravely ran away from home, but he had no criminal record as an adult, the chief said.

So if he had a juvenile record and he was only 20 years old and 18 is when he's considered an adult then he wasn't an adult for very long. Might be a good idea to withhold gun privileges until he's 25 or so to see if he can stay out of trouble for a little longer than just two years.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-07-19 12:49||   2022-07-19 12:49|| Front Page Top

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