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2022-04-03 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Secret intelligence has unusually public role in Ukraine war

LONDON (AP) — The war in Ukraine is the conflict where spies came in from the cold and took center stage.

Since Russia invaded its neighbor in late February, intelligence agencies in the U.S. and Britain have been remarkably willing to go public with their secret intelligence assessments of what is happening on the battlefield — and inside the Kremlin.

The U.S. this week declassified intelligence findings claiming Russian President Vladimir Putin is being misinformed about his military’s poor performance in Ukraine by advisers scared to tell him the truth. On Thursday a British spy chief said demoralized Russian troops were refusing to carry out orders and sabotaging their own equipment.

Jeremy Fleming, who heads Britain’s electronic intelligence agency GCHQ, made the comments in a public speech where he said the "pace and scale" at which secret intelligence is being released "really is unprecedented."

Mark Galeotti, a Russia expert at University College London, agreed that the very public intelligence campaign "reflects the fact that we now live in a different age, politically and internationally. And this is a different kind of war."

Posted by Besoeker 2022-04-03 05:18|| || Front Page|| [16 views ] Top

#1 Propaganda at it's best. News is not news anymore but stories to be passed on as a picture having been photoshopped.

Posted by Dale 2022-04-03 06:58|| 2022-04-03 06:58|| Front Page Top

#2 this week declassified intelligence findings claiming Russian President Vladimir Putin is being misinformed

That's today's secret intelligence for you.

"We thought he should know..."

Posted by Dron66046 2022-04-03 11:21|| 2022-04-03 11:21|| Front Page Top

#3 MI6 and CIA go full TikTok. All of the bullshit, but no tits or ass

Posted by Vespasian Spawn of the Trolls6588 2022-04-03 11:37|| 2022-04-03 11:37|| Front Page Top

Posted by Cherese Bumble5078 2022-04-03 12:02|| 2022-04-03 12:02|| Front Page Top

#5 Rantburg moderators are now linking to the wire services

Still ~~stuck on stupid~~ hung up on this, are we? Yes, it is much better to get cut & paste wire service articles that were 'leaked' by the intel services than to get generic media articles that were 'leaked' by the intel services. Argument from authority and all that.

Come on, man! Do you really think we are fooled by the media war? I cannot speak for everyone here, but in general, it is not our first rodeo. Not to mention that some (Hi, Fred!) actually do intel & analysis for a living.

Posted by SteveS 2022-04-03 12:22|| 2022-04-03 12:22|| Front Page Top

#6 ^ I think he just wants us to make sh*t up.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-04-03 12:44|| 2022-04-03 12:44|| Front Page Top

#7 Come on, man!
Eat your ice cream, Joe.

"Stuck on stupid"
So Katrina... so redneck

Posted by Cherese Bumble5078 2022-04-03 12:50|| 2022-04-03 12:50|| Front Page Top

#8 some [of us] actually do intel & analysis for a living.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Posted by Glavish Tholush7351 2022-04-03 13:30|| 2022-04-03 13:30|| Front Page Top

#9 All of the bullshit, but no tits or ass

For that we have the Daily Mail.

Posted by Skidmark 2022-04-03 14:29|| 2022-04-03 14:29|| Front Page Top

#10 we you have your Daily Mail

😃

Posted by Glavish Tholush7351 2022-04-03 14:35|| 2022-04-03 14:35|| Front Page Top

#11 We notice, my dear Glavish Tholush7351, that despite your objections under a variety of Fred’s anonymizer nyms you are coming hanging out here long enough to read the articles and discuss the contents.

Rantburg links to all sorts of sources, from local news sites and bloggers to various national and regional wire services and even the Washington Post and the New York Times. We generally avoid the Guardian, though, as that is a bridge too far even for biased sites. I mean, they twice sent their readers to try to influence American voters’ choice for president, the second time getting the exact same “Go f*ck yourselves, you stupid, condescending wankers — we had a revolution so we wouldn’t have to listen to you” response as the first time.

Posted by trailing wife 2022-04-03 15:17|| 2022-04-03 15:17|| Front Page Top

#12 MI6 and CIA go full TikTok. All of the bullshit, but no tits or ass
Nothing wrong with tits & ass! Emily and Kendall snaps keep the American "professional military analysts" busy. Better than having to become fluent in foreign languages (that be real hard).

Posted by Glavish Tholush7351 2022-04-03 15:32|| 2022-04-03 15:32|| Front Page Top

#13 dear Glavish Tholush
Finally, someone who appreciates my name! You can't imagine how much angst I've suffered all these years. Helmet or Wolfgang -- even Friedrich-FRITZ would have been better than Glavish. But no! Mutti thought it sounded Hollywood ("Lavish"). If I were a Mahattan Jew I'd be bankrupt from all the psychotherapy sessions to undo this

Posted by Glavish Tholush7351 2022-04-03 15:46|| 2022-04-03 15:46|| Front Page Top

#14 I didn’t think they would invade, but there was a certain info piece that convinced me that I was wrong - the report that the Russians had moved blood supply to the exercise area. The fact that that level of detail was available in the news surprised me. It made no sense to me that anyone who risk a significant amount of blood in exercises unless they were really bad at exercising.

Posted by Super Hose 2022-04-03 16:24|| 2022-04-03 16:24|| Front Page Top

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