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2022-03-08 Home Front: Politix

Most Americans cheering a no-fly zone don't know what they're talking about, and the warmongering media is manipulating that ignorance.

[Federalist HT: Menhadden Spaviger9342] You may have heard over the weekend that Americans now "broadly support" imposing a no-fly zone over Ukraine. "A broad bipartisan majority of Americans think the United States should ... work with NATO to set up ’no-fly zones’ to protect Ukraine from Russian air strikes," insisted a Reuters/Ipsos poll released Friday, noting that 74 percent of respondents supported the aggressive move.

The same poll, however, showed that only 39 percent of Americans want to see American troops sent to Ukraine, with fully 61 percent opposed — a statistic that was conveniently left out of the Reuters write-up (the report only mentioned vague "majorities" opposing boots on the ground). That gaping disconnect indicates two things: Most Americans cheering a no-fly zone don’t know what that would entail, and the warmongering media is using that ignorance to the advantage of its agenda.

Pollsters asking Americans if they support a no-fly zone aren’t explaining to them what the consequences of such an action would be. NATO has so far refused to enact a no-fly zone precisely because it would almost certainly lead to war, and Russia has made it clear it would interpret such a move as an act of war.

As my colleague John Daniel Davidson noted last week: "Of course a no-fly zone would mean just that: The U.S. would have to shoot down Russian warplanes, and Russian warplanes would very likely do the same to us. We would be in a shooting war with Russia before the no-fly zone was even established." Florida Republican Rep. Marco Rubio agreed, saying a no-fly zone "would mean World War III."

Reuters even admitted, four paragraphs into its report, that "It was not clear if respondents who supported a no-fly zone were fully aware of the risk of conflict." Of course they weren’t, as evidenced by the 35-point difference between support for a no-fly zone and support for American troop involvement.

The poll also found 57 percent of Americans agreed that "Given the current economic climate, the United States cannot afford to be taking military action in Ukraine." Six in 10 Americans also didn’t want to see the U.S. conduct airstrikes against Russia.

Pollsters didn’t even ask how many respondents would oppose a full-scale war with Russia, a number which would surely be even higher. In fact, look through the toplines of the survey and you won’t even find the word "war."

There’s a real chance that if the United States and the rest of NATO are dragged into a full conflict with Russia over Ukraine, we could see a devastating nuclear war. That’s not a possibility our politicians and media should take lightly, but nevertheless, they continue to recklessly bandy about unserious responses to Russia’s aggression.

While Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., implores his Twitter followers to assassinate Vladimir Putin, and Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., urges a no-fly zone (while also peddling disproven propaganda), the censors who preach about fighting misinformation at home have happily allowed false stories about Ukraine that fit their pro-war agenda to propagate.

Meanwhile, another recent poll from Rasmussen Reports shows the broad divide between elites who are pushing for war and the actual people who would fight it. Overall, 49 percent of American voters answered "yes" to the question, "If a wider war breaks out in Europe, should the U.S. military be involved?"

But that belief is held by only 37 percent of respondents with an income below $30,000, compared to 66 percent of respondents making more than $200,000.

I seem to recall the upper income percentage of respondents in the 80+% range a week ago, in which case the current 66% is a precipitous drop.

The majority of U.S. military recruits come from middle-class backgrounds, a demographic that supports shedding American blood in Europe far less than the ruling class does.

"If a wider war breaks out in Europe, should the U.S. military be involved?"

All Voters - Yes - 49%

- Yes by Income -
Under $30K: 37%
$30-50K: 48%
$50-100K: 51%
$100-200K: 52%
Over $200K: 66% https://t.co/W4yFT6LZvt
— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) March 1, 2022

Posted by Frank G 2022-03-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11139 views ] Top

#1 What's the big deal? You just fill out the official No-Fly Zone Form in triplicate and then no one can fly airplanes. How hard is that?

I wonder if the war approval poll results correlate with the odds that the respondent listens to drive-time NPR.

Posted by SteveS 2022-03-08 00:39|| 2022-03-08 00:39|| Front Page Top

#2 ^ ChairForce to the rescue! Nice.

Posted by Spolush Bluetooth6942 2022-03-08 00:45|| 2022-03-08 00:45|| Front Page Top

#3 I can almost feel the winds of war. No fly zone, earth shattering 2020 Wisconsin election investigation? Hunter, Clinton, Fauci, and COVID masks, the economy, all of this will likely soon be overcome by events....as planned.

Does anyone think MIGS flying from Poland to the Ukraine will not return to Poland and it's supporting maintenance bases, spares, fuel, ordinance? RU is holding back it's Air Force for just such an event. If Putin sends cruise missiles into Poland, what will NATO do ?

Notice the lack of recent discussion regarding the upcoming US mid-term elections? My guess is there won't be any election.

Biden, or rather his handlers are holding back US oil production for a reason. Could that reason be war? I fear we are on the precipice.

I hope and pray I am wrong.

Red State - Did Blinken Put Poland Outside NATO Protection if It Transfers New Fighter Aircraft to Ukraine?

Posted by Besoeker 2022-03-08 00:58|| 2022-03-08 00:58|| Front Page Top

#4 It’s up to us at home to ensure there is indeed an election.

Posted by trailing wife 2022-03-08 01:03|| 2022-03-08 01:03|| Front Page Top

#5 Yet another explosion in the making as Democrats pour more high-octane fuel on the flames here at home: Democrats on Jan. 6 Committee are now preparing to indict Trump on conspiracy charges.

So maybe civil war next ... as if we didn't have enough crises

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 01:08|| 2022-03-08 01:08|| Front Page Top

#6 are now preparing to indict Trump on conspiracy charges.

That should be fun — Donald J. Trump in the national spotlight again, this time with high priced lawyers at his side. CNN will be overjoyed to to be able to cater to the 90% of their audience that they lost when he went home. And the rest as well — they won’t be able to stop themselves from covering it

It’s not like the committee has a leg to stand on. They’re just hoping that somehow this will save their cumulative bacon in November, instead of the comparison between their boy and him being the difference between the living and the stumbling zombie.

Posted by trailing wife 2022-03-08 01:17|| 2022-03-08 01:17|| Front Page Top

#7 Townhall - 'Total Failure'? Russian Intelligence Official Allegedly Warns of Disaster in Ukraine

We must keep our distance and continue to pump Stingers and Jav's to the opposition. Bleed the bear dry.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-03-08 01:48|| 2022-03-08 01:48|| Front Page Top

#8 Townhall - 'Something Must Be Wrong': Why Hasn't the 40-Mile Russian Convoy Outside Kyiv Moved in Days?

Likely supplies for a long-term occupation. Putin sees himself as the savior of the religious cultural icon of Kiev. He may wish to avoid destruction of the city.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-03-08 01:54|| 2022-03-08 01:54|| Front Page Top

#9
Have had this discussion with a few people this week.

When I ask them how the NO-Fly Zone would be enforced?
A few said the UN issued order.
A few of the dumber ones said why not use the US AF?

Posted by NN2N1 2022-03-08 07:00|| 2022-03-08 07:00|| Front Page Top

#10 If through some miracle we are able to stay out of this conflict, it will mark a turning point in foreign policy trends which began shortly after WWII.

Stay out of it.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-03-08 07:06|| 2022-03-08 07:06|| Front Page Top

#11 Amen. Stay the fuck out of this. Not our circus.
Fix our own country. Depose our own dictators.

And keep calling out the shitty warmongers who are trying to drag us into this pointless war with filthy trucks like falsifying polling data

Fuck the warmongers. Fix our own democracy that's under siege from our own dictators

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 08:35|| 2022-03-08 08:35|| Front Page Top

#12 * filthy tricks

The truckers are pure and clean

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 08:36|| 2022-03-08 08:36|| Front Page Top

#13 So did the Biden group take lessons from the Clintons? Using polling data for strategic decision making? It failed in Kosovo and in Mogadishu. The dems are going to roll us into a bigger mess if they listen to this stuff and use it for decision making.

Posted by 49 Pan 2022-03-08 08:57|| 2022-03-08 08:57|| Front Page Top

#14 Amen. ~~Stay~~ Get the fuck out of this.

Good advice for your countrymen, Boris.
Good ~~morning~~ afternoon. Shitty weather in Russia as normal?

Posted by Angaiper Ulavins1210 2022-03-08 09:01|| 2022-03-08 09:01|| Front Page Top

#15 You again?

"Boris" - ha. Try harder.

Why are you still here, anyway? When do you ship off to join the John McStain Brigade, tough guy?

Clue for you: don't go to the Donbas: its soon to be totally under Russian control

#FuckNeocons

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 09:32|| 2022-03-08 09:32|| Front Page Top

#16 You're closer, Boris. Thought about catching an armored train south and dying for the motherland?

Posted by Angaiper Ulavins1210 2022-03-08 09:41|| 2022-03-08 09:41|| Front Page Top

#17 "Boris" - fuck off

Just go away, little one. So boring.

You neocons have caused enough damage to us already. Miss Lindsey says let's you and him fight it out out.

Go for it, and leave off insulting and spamming us here with your nonsense

#FuckNeocons

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 09:53|| 2022-03-08 09:53|| Front Page Top

#18 Fix our own country. Depose our own dictators.

I agree. And what I'd say would be against the 'we don't talk about hurting Americans' rule. But right track.

Posted by Cthulhu of Ryleh 2022-03-08 10:06|| 2022-03-08 10:06|| Front Page Top

#19 We're seeing blowback in real time. While idiots slaver about poking the bear, we're now getting poked in the ass by the rest of the world - a world led by China.

Is that the tail wagging our bitch?

Are the corrupt shits and billionaires who rule roughshod over us actually trying to build up China now? Does that explain their mad encouragement of that little puppet Zelensky - when everything in our society now is going straight to hell?

Whether by design or by accident, what our leaders are doing is insane. Bring down these madmen before they destroy our country

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 10:16|| 2022-03-08 10:16|| Front Page Top

#20 Why Hasn't the 40-Mile Russian Convoy Outside Kyiv Moved in Days?

I read an article somewhere that the Russian trucks use Chinese tires that turned out to be super-substandard. They can't go off-road without getting stuck so the roads are piled up three vehicles wide so vehicles can't get to the front of the columns without new tires or tracked vehicles. Then the long wait has led to batteries and fuel running out.

This might be propaganda, there has been a bit of that bandied about, but if true, that's the military fiasco of the century and will certainly lead to a bit of friction between China and Russia in the future.

Posted by ruprecht 2022-03-08 10:21|| 2022-03-08 10:21|| Front Page Top

#21 man pads with deepWOODS OFF old spice or brute only the high ups can use polo scented ones. THERE WILL BE ORDER!

Posted by Greng Black3494 2022-03-08 10:28|| 2022-03-08 10:28|| Front Page Top

#22 The desperation of these assholes is palpable. I have never in all my years seen such blatant misrepresentation of polling data. This is beyond shameless.

No American outside our elites wants to have anything to do with this. But then, no ordinary American supports all the other insane shit these bastards have rained down on our heads for nearly a decade now.

Hoax after hoax after disgusting hoax: "Systemic racism!" "Trump's a Russian agent!!" "White supremacy!!!"

And of course, all the COVID bullshit. "Flatten the curve! finished by Fall 2021! Boosters ad infinitum!"

Regime change begins at home. Fuck these liars. Before they ruin us altogether

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 10:42|| 2022-03-08 10:42|| Front Page Top

#23 I wonder if the war approval poll results correlate with the odds that the respondent listens to drive-time NPR.

No, that's right. That is why I got the fox news drive time hype man F-16s for Flying Tiger Club talk.

Had a talk with a neo-Klingon the other day. I hope I got the point across that if he is really for Ukraine, really really, then the best thing to do is let them fight "on their own". If they win "on their own" they negotiate with Russia from strength. If they lose "on their own", they have legitimate grievance. If NATO gets involved, they become a testing field and will always be subject to the current "winner". Are you for Ukraine as a self determining state, or are you for Ukraine because people who lied to you about Covid for 2 years, all these new found friends of Sean Hannity, say "Keev! Qapla!"?

If serious people are still involved, this is being played out and done, so chill. If serious people are not involved, then we don't need to get involved, so chill.

Posted by swksvolFF 2022-03-08 10:53|| 2022-03-08 10:53|| Front Page Top

#24 People still getting their cues from the media annoy me. A lot...

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-08 10:58|| 2022-03-08 10:58|| Front Page Top

#25 /\ Ref #23: Good stuff, spot on.

BTW, didn't Ivan eventually ruck-up and motor on out of Afghanistan ?

Just say'n.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-03-08 10:58|| 2022-03-08 10:58|| Front Page Top

#26 The Keev thing. Back when Gulf War I started, Brit Hume (Sh*t Fume) was right out front saying "Gutter." In his FauxNews pieces.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-08 11:00|| 2022-03-08 11:00|| Front Page Top

#27 /\ Nuus people and pols? Er, uuhh, you have no DD-214? Sorry Leonard, I will listen politely but with extreme skepticism.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-03-08 11:05|| 2022-03-08 11:05|| Front Page Top

#28 When I see all the TeeVee talking heads suited up on a troop plane to Ukraine, I'll take it seriously. BTW, has Vindman gone back on active duty status yet?

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-08 11:14|| 2022-03-08 11:14|| Front Page Top

#29 Vindman is hollering at our Congresscritters again, trying to egg them on to declare war

Posted by Spike Lover of the Texans8205 2022-03-08 11:16|| 2022-03-08 11:16|| Front Page Top

#30 Something, something, a successful insurgency requires a -neutral- neighbor.

Posted by swksvolFF 2022-03-08 11:35|| 2022-03-08 11:35|| Front Page Top

#31 Well, it appears now that Biden and Buttigieg are going to establish a no-drive zone across America. Well, anything beyond a long electric extension cord.

Posted by Procopius2k 2022-03-08 12:11|| 2022-03-08 12:11|| Front Page Top

#32 ...and you just know its coming.

Posted by Procopius2k 2022-03-08 13:22|| 2022-03-08 13:22|| Front Page Top

#33 I lost all sympathy for Zelensky when he called for NATO to impose a no-fly-zone over Ukraine. Then Ukraine 2022 can be like Serbia 1914, right? Too bad he listened to the likes of Tony Blinken, John McCain and Lindsey Graham but he should have known that he is just a pawn in their game. Putin offered him a deal. He should take it.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-03-08 13:23|| 2022-03-08 13:23|| Front Page Top

#34 Wikipedia reports:

November 2020, Vindman joined the staff of the national security blog Lawfare with a fellowship of the Pritzker Military Foundation.[40] Additionally, he is pursuing a Ph.D. in international affairs at Johns Hopkins University's Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, with an expected completion date in 2022.[41] On August 1, 2020, Vindman authored an opinion piece in the Washington Post addressing his retirement.[42] On February 2, 2022, Vindman sued several Trump allies, alleging that they intimidated and retaliated against him while he testified in Congress, and thereby violated the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871. The defendants in the lawsuit are Donald Trump Jr., Rudy Giuliani, former White House deputy chief of staff Dan Scavino, and former White House deputy communications director Julia Hahn.

President Biden apparently promoted his brother last year.

Posted by trailing wife 2022-03-08 13:23|| 2022-03-08 13:23|| Front Page Top

#35 I lost all sympathy for Zelensky when he called for NATO to impose a no-fly-zone over Ukraine. Then Ukraine 2022 can be like Serbia 1914, right? Too bad he listened to the likes of Tony Blinken, John McCain and Lindsey Graham but he should have known that he is just a pawn in their game. Putin offered him a deal. He should take it.

The only person on the planet who can ensure that Zelensky does the intelligent thing is the US president.

This mess could have been brought to a conclusion if Biden had told Littke Big Man Zelensky to live up to the Minsk deal.

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 13:41|| 2022-03-08 13:41|| Front Page Top

#36 Ordering other countries' leaders what to do. So... democratic.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-08 13:42|| 2022-03-08 13:42|| Front Page Top

#37 Let's be honest. The louder a politician screeches about democracy, the less use they actually have for it.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-08 13:44|| 2022-03-08 13:44|| Front Page Top

#38 NFS, I'm looking forward to your comment on the article titled "So I will ask.." Cant miss it. Top of the page.

Posted by Matt 2022-03-08 13:44|| 2022-03-08 13:44|| Front Page Top

#39 Does Fred take rubles?

Posted by Nero 2022-03-08 13:51|| 2022-03-08 13:51|| Front Page Top

#40 Ordering other countries' leaders what to do.

That is EXACTLY what US leaders beginning with Eisenhower in the Suez Crisis of 1956 have done repeatedly and with success when dealing with leaders of other nations whose warmongering threatened American interests. Should we have intervened in Hungary that year and set off WWIII? Ike said He'll no. He also kept us out of Vietnam; it was his Democrat successors who dragged us into that mess.

Read Evan Thomas's excellent account, "Ike’s Bluff: President Eisenhower’s Secret Battle to Save the World.”

Here's Evan Thomas recalling Ike's brilliance in 2013:

We think of Ike as a great military man, but as president he used his understanding of the military to rein it in.

Ike’s credo: true national security begins at home with a sound economy, shored up by a careful balance of resources and commitment.

How did Eisenhower do it? Once Ike extricated the United States from the Korean War in 1953, he managed to cut the defense budget over his two terms by about a quarter, from about 70% of the federal budget to 60%. (Today, defense is about 20% of federal spending.)

Aware from reading Clausewitz and his own experience that small wars have a way of becoming big wars, Eisenhower was determined to keep the United States out of any war. He resisted the temptation to send ground troops into Vietnam after the French military collapsed at Dien Bien Phu in 1954. The jungle, he told his National Security Council, would “absorb our troops by divisions.”

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 14:06|| 2022-03-08 14:06|| Front Page Top

#41 *Ike said Hell no.

Just imagine how much stronger, freer, safer and wealthier we would be today if we'd had Eisenhower-style anti-neocon presidents these last two decades.

#FuckNeocons

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 14:09|| 2022-03-08 14:09|| Front Page Top

#42 The US was at the top of the heap after WWII. We've basically let everyone else catch up since then. The notion of Joe Bidet telling anyone what to do is hilarious in a very black comedy way.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-08 14:10|| 2022-03-08 14:10|| Front Page Top

#43 But, as I said, instead of sending used planes and pop guns to the Ukrainians, more strategic buildup here at home. If you're excited about the idea of an American president ordering the world around, imagine Trump making a handful of phone calls to say Stratcom will be making a demonstration of Prompt Global Strike in one hour, but keep your pants on.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-08 14:14|| 2022-03-08 14:14|| Front Page Top

#44 ^ Was funny. Very quickly has stopped being funny ... we are seriously sliding toward economic ruin, dictatorship, even civil war. Like living through a horror movie, all happening in front of our eyes in real time

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 14:16|| 2022-03-08 14:16|| Front Page Top

#45 So, we should thrash and panic. That always works out so well...

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-08 14:18|| 2022-03-08 14:18|| Front Page Top

#46 If you're excited about the idea of an American president ordering the world around,

No, not the big powers that matter. Just the pipsqueaks like Duterte in the Philippines, Zelensky, AMLO in Mexico, Pinochet back in the day, etc -- that is, put them in their place when their behavior clashes with or threatens to harm American interests.

America First -- with due respect for China and other great powers who can hurt us if they choose. And now we are in a world of hurt because of this asinine policy of encouraging the Little Big Man in Kiev to poke the bear. Unbelievably stupid.

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 14:23|| 2022-03-08 14:23|| Front Page Top

#47 Zelensky has not threatened America at all. He has got his tit in a wringer and expects Uncle Sam to bail him out. Duterte, AMLO, even Yippie-Kay-Erdogan do not threaten the US and we don't need to move a paperclip at the Pentagon over them.

NFS, you need to hike up your pants. Your Hammer and Sickle boxers are showing while you jump up and down screeching about how concerned for America you are.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-08 14:28|| 2022-03-08 14:28|| Front Page Top

#48 M.M.,

should thrash and panic

Ha, you're right - sorry if that seemed excitable. Insert 1970s Mennen After-Shave commercial here. "Thanks, I neede that (sarcasm)!"

But the truth is that these assholes really are destroying everything they can touch. I try not to be optimistic because reality has a way of sandbagging me when I am

Did you see that DeSantis met with Dr Malone and the Briwnst Be doctors the other day? I love that guy. But Biden's thugs are gonna go nuclear on Ron now. Fun times

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 14:33|| 2022-03-08 14:33|| Front Page Top

#49 *met with the Brownstone doctors

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 14:34|| 2022-03-08 14:34|| Front Page Top

#50 your Hammer and Sickle boxers are showing

🙄

Oh stop. FFS, just stop with that bullshit. I don't have anything against you.

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 14:37|| 2022-03-08 14:37|| Front Page Top

#51 Well, that was a great commercial. DeSantis is my governor. Not sure we are going to let the deep state put him through what Trump got. We can keep him until 2026 and then send him to the Senate.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-08 14:40|| 2022-03-08 14:40|| Front Page Top

#52 Did you know that Coen Bros' fave John Goodman appeared in one of those "byyyyyyyy...Mennen" ads?

YouTube does have at least one redeeming quality

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 14:46|| 2022-03-08 14:46|| Front Page Top

#53 The debate continues:

Is Putin an unstable megalomaniac who will stop at nothing to restore the Soviet Union to its former glory?

Or does he have legitimate concerns about NATO troops on his border?

OK, Putin is a ruthless dictator and a murdering bastard. But how does he see us? Since the collapse of the Soviet Union he has watched NATO advance from one country to another until now it is on the brink of moving into Ukraine which was never an independent nation but was the bread basket of the Soviet Union and, before then, the Russian Empire. Who is the aggressor?

I studied some Russian history in college. I don't remember a lot of it but I was left with some impressions. They have always been isolated way out there in Moscow, so far from glamorous cities like London, Berlin, Vienna and Paris. So they have always been backward compared to the rest of Europe and so their armies have never performed as well as some of their European rivals. We're seeing that now in Ukraine. So they have always relied on keeping vast tracts of land, like Ukraine, between themselves and their enemies.

It's also kinda strange that all this somehow suddenly happens in the lead up to our mid-term elections in which Democrats feared they would suffer staggering losses due to their inept governance. They need a distraction. Then you have Republicans who are on the take from defense contractors. It's been kinda slow since Afghanistan.

Also most peculiar are all the media types on TV, the internet and the newspapers banging on their war drums for all they're worth. They don't know jack squat about Ukraine or Russia and yet they are eager to take sides because bad, bad Putin and brave, brave Zelensky. It stinks. Take a look at CBS News, even Fox News lately, and tell me you can't smell it. Why are we all in such a hurry to take sides in a war that we don't understand?

Wake me up when Putin attacks Poland.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-03-08 14:49|| 2022-03-08 14:49|| Front Page Top

#54 I believe we should wait until Dr. Fauci issues the CDC guidelines on No Fly Zones.

Posted by swksvolFF 2022-03-08 14:54|| 2022-03-08 14:54|| Front Page Top

#55 Did you know that Coen Bros' fave John Goodman appeared in one of those "byyyyyyyy...Mennen" ads?

Impressive research.

I like this ad too...

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-08 14:55|| 2022-03-08 14:55|| Front Page Top

#56 Not research, dear boy. Fond memories.

RightGuard Shaving Cream ("Hi Guy!" "Monaaah..") Broadway Joe, shaving his legs. Sock it to me. Verrrrry interesting - but SHTOOPID!

E-dit & Ahchie signing
And you know who you were then
Goyls were goyls and men were men
Mistag we could use a man like Hoybert Hoover again

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 15:04|| 2022-03-08 15:04|| Front Page Top

#57 No Fortunate Son, calling anyone on this board a NeoCon is laughable.

Posted by ruprecht 2022-03-08 15:07|| 2022-03-08 15:07|| Front Page Top

#58 MM,
Got it. 😂 🤣
(And YES, my grandfather wore Old Spice!! As does his grandson. Can't whistle, though)

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 15:09|| 2022-03-08 15:09|| Front Page Top

#59 The Angiver (?) moron is definitely a NeoCon.
Dron-Ji was warned by friends about neocons here...

But point taken. This is a good crew. Am Fortunate to be here

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 15:11|| 2022-03-08 15:11|| Front Page Top

#60 I can't whistle either. One of those things....

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-08 15:15|| 2022-03-08 15:15|| Front Page Top

#61 Ok. As a young boy who had no idea what shaving was about, the Personna commercial with the electric arc enthralled me.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-08 15:17|| 2022-03-08 15:17|| Front Page Top

#62 One of the cool older guys who ran with my brother's pack told us how he copped a feel with Bridget H_______, found out she was shaven down there, and hollered, "She's BALD! I've been ripped off royal!!"

Taught me worlds about gymnast girls' pubes and the declaratory use of 'royal' -- all during one sleepover anecdote.

But I was baffled by their use of "warm Coke." Still am.

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 15:23|| 2022-03-08 15:23|| Front Page Top

#63 *declamatory

Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-08 15:24|| 2022-03-08 15:24|| Front Page Top

#64 Nothing ever as funny as Sergio Aragones' bearded clam margin cartoons in National Lampoon.

"Cream in your coffee?" says one clam.
"Not recently." replies the other.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-08 15:36|| 2022-03-08 15:36|| Front Page Top

#65 "Boris" - fuck off

Yes, do fuck off, Boris(es). The script you all work from is old, well known, and busted. Ask your bosses for some new material. You all are not the first paid Russian trolls, below average in ability and won't be last. Pity, you all get paid by the byte and not the bite.

Posted by Angaiper Ulavins1210 2022-03-08 22:43|| 2022-03-08 22:43|| Front Page Top

#66 Yes, do fuck off, Boris(es)

I think the plural is Borisi, unless it involves the genital case which is frequently used in Russian.

Posted by SteveS 2022-03-08 22:58|| 2022-03-08 22:58|| Front Page Top

#67 A New England village in India
Once nurtured a digital ninja
Who, sadly, defected
The day he detected
An All-Russian Vinnytsia ginger.

Or possibly vice versa.

Posted by Shaique Lumplump3151 2022-03-08 23:55|| 2022-03-08 23:55|| Front Page Top

#68 Ooooohhhh, SteveS. It’s a good thing I was already in bed or I would have fallen off my chair.

Posted by trailing wife 2022-03-08 23:57|| 2022-03-08 23:57|| Front Page Top

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07:34 trailing wife
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07:30 NN2N1
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07:18 trailing wife
07:14 Richard Aubrey
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