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2021-10-30 Home Front: Politix
Three Reasons to Start Taking Secession Seriously
[Mises Institute] Last month, the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia released a new study which showed that, at least among those polled, "roughly 4 in 10 (41%) of Biden and half (52%) of Trump voters at least somewhat agree that it's time to split the country, favoring blue/red states seceding from the union."

Moreover, majorities in both groups agreed there are "many radical, immoral people trying to ruin things" and that "it is the duty of every true citizen to help eliminate the evil that poisons our country from within."

On might conclude that people who think that things are generally going well in a country aren't so concerned with "the evil within" that they think it's time to "split the country."

It seems that President Biden has been unable to "unite" the country after all, in spite of his promises that it's "time to heal in America" and that he will "be a president who seeks not to divide, but to unify." Rather, it appears the country embraces a hard divide over a variety of issues, with vaccine mandates and parental rights in public education being only the most current ones.

At this point, there's no reason to believe these divides are simply going to go away. Secession is likely to become even more mainstream, as has been occurring in recent years, and as the old "liberal consensus" of the mid-twentieth century recedes ever more into the distant past.

Rather, experience increasingly points toward separation, even if such events seem far off. In the real world, after all, major political changes can come suddenly and in unexpected ways. In 1987, most Soviets still assumed the USSR would continue to exist for many more decades—if not centuries. Because of this, now is the time to begin asking the difficult questions about secession and how military and financial questions can be addressed.

Considering all this, we see three main reasons why it is increasingly unwise to ignore secession as a serious possibility.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-10-30 02:28|| || Front Page|| [11 views ]  Top

#1 If we have learned anything as Americans during the last seven years, it's that we must remove from our thinking the phrase, It can't happen here.

It CAN happen here. It is happening.

Buckle your seatbelts
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2021-10-30 06:29||   2021-10-30 06:29|| Front Page Top

#2 While I don't see a "Conservative States of America" (CSA) ☺ in the near future.

I do see liberals openly circumventing our US Constitution. So have States start charging such persons/Politicians with violating Civil Rights.

I would welcome Laws and Amendments that:

LIMIT DC powers to what they were to have been to begin with.

3 elected term limitation with a 5 year prohibition before being allowed to run again.

Forbidding any elected official from association with any company that they received donations from and/or steered contracts for 10 years to include backdoor $$$$ via Family/Friends.

Limiting donations to $25 per voter and $5,000 per 501 #c registered SIG per election cycle.

Require all MEDIA to OPENLY declare their political position of support or neutrality.

Remove the current Civil Lawsuit immunity for Politicians who make threats and slanderous comments.

To name a few.
Posted by NN2N1 2021-10-30 07:25||   2021-10-30 07:25|| Front Page Top

#3 Require all MEDIA to OPENLY declare their political position of support or neutrality.

And treat their slanted coverage as in-kind campaign contributions, subject to the campaign finance laws
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2021-10-30 09:06||   2021-10-30 09:06|| Front Page Top

#4 #2: its coming. When biden charges Abbott with usurpation of federal powers vis-a-vis the border. I don't see any way the current country can remain. Jefferson said that the tree of freedom must be watered with the blood of patriots. I do not want a 'civil war' but i do want a new constitution free of all 'penumbras' and equal justice applied to all. I don't see any way to get a conservative nation using the existing constitution. Yea, Greg Abbott.
Posted by jim murray  2021-10-30 10:48||   2021-10-30 10:48|| Front Page Top

#5 Reason #4: these mofos are certifiably insane.

Can anyone make sense of today's fresh burst of lunacy?

Biden releases 'gender equity' plan that calls for eliminating cash bail
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2021-10-30 11:56||   2021-10-30 11:56|| Front Page Top

#6 They have set the stage with the massive lies and partial truth about Jan 6, and the "white supremacist" meme, precisely as a predicate for what is coming. Is it possible these latest outrages on the border, Afghanistan, inflation, supply shortages, climate bullshit, and not this amazing stupidity, are all provocations to elicit a poorly organized, fragmented public reaction? One that can be the justification for massive military reaction, the demise of the 2A, and creation of the national police force? Inquiring minds wonder...
Posted by NoMoreBS 2021-10-30 13:47||   2021-10-30 13:47|| Front Page Top

#7 ^ Yes. Never could have imagined this, but the provocation thesis is becoming more and more plausible with each passing day. There is no other way to explain this swelling concatenation of idiocies
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2021-10-30 15:05||   2021-10-30 15:05|| Front Page Top

#8 I'll accept secession only if it's based on a precinct-by-precinct basis. Anything else would be tyranny for far too many. Just because 20% of Colorado has 85% of the population does not justify forcing me to live to THEIR whims, especially since they're too stupid to think beyond their wish for "free stuff".
Posted by Old Patriot 2021-10-30 17:39||   2021-10-30 17:39|| Front Page Top

#9 I agree. Its just the costal region of CA and WA (not sure abut Oregon) which are blue.

Besides - you'd want a port on the pacific coast outside of Alaska.
Posted by CrazyFool 2021-10-30 17:47||   2021-10-30 17:47|| Front Page Top

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