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2021-09-21 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

COVID has killed about as many Americans as the 1918-19 flu

That assumes the statistics are correct. But we know that somewhere north of a quarter of those reported as dead of Covid-19 actually only died with a positive test for Covid, whether or not they displayed symptoms.

[AP] COVID-19 has now killed about as many Americans as the 1918-19 Spanish flu pandemic did — approximately 675,000.

The U.S. population a century ago was just one-third of what it is today, meaning the flu cut a much bigger, more lethal swath through the country. But the COVID-19 crisis is by any measure a colossal tragedy in its own right, especially given the incredible advances in scientific knowledge since then and the failure to take maximum advantage of the vaccines available this time.

"Big pockets of American society — and, worse, their leaders — have thrown this away," medical historian Dr. Howard Markel of the University of Michigan said of the opportunity to vaccinate everyone eligible by now.

Like the Spanish flu, the coronavirus may never entirely disappear from our midst. Instead, scientists hope it becomes a mild seasonal bug as human immunity strengthens through vaccination and repeated infection. That could take time.

"We hope it will be like getting a cold, but there’s no guarantee," said Emory University biologist Rustom Antia, who suggests an optimistic scenario in which this could happen over a few years.
"Imagine if there was a 99.7% chance you wouldn't get cancer, but you were forced to go on chemotherapy just in case."
For now, the pandemic still has the United States and other parts of the world firmly in its jaws.

While the delta-fueled surge in infections may have peaked, U.S. deaths are running at over 1,900 a day on average, the highest level since early March, and the country’s overall toll topped 675,000 Monday, according to the count kept by Johns Hopkins University, though the real number is believed to be higher.

Winter may bring a new surge, with the University of Washington’s influential model projecting an additional 100,000 or so Americans will die of COVID-19 by Jan. 1, which would bring the overall U.S. toll to 776,000.

The 1918-19 influenza pandemic killed 50 million victims globally at a time when the world had one-quarter the population it does now. Global deaths from COVID-19 now stand at more than 4.6 million.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-09-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [15 views ] Top

#1 So covid still pales in comparison to the 'Spanish' flu.

But more folks are crowding, and unmasking, but I am still waiting for one documented 'superspreader' event.

Posted by Bobby 2021-09-21 08:30|| 2021-09-21 08:30|| Front Page Top

#2 A Deeper Comparison.

1st of all.... Stating "As deadly as the 1918-20 Spanish Flu". Is a misleading Media Headline grabbing comparison. We have 3x's the population and 1000x's fast means of transportation to spread it than in 1918-20.

FACTS:

Lets use the Guesstimates of 650K dead from both pandemics.
Yep even the 1918-20 650K number was a book authors estimate. Then the overall dead per million for the Spanish Flu far exceeds the Covid-19/21.

Running the US Population for each pandemic and did some basic old school math.
We know the figures are Media driven over-hyped full of issues. But using their numbers against them.

1918-1920
A US population was about 103.# Million.
Using the estimated 650k Death figure vs 103M equals 6.31%

2019-2021
A US population is about 331.# Million.
Using the estimated 650k Death figure vs. 331M equals 1.96%

SUMMARY: 1918-20 Spanish Flu roughly had about a 435% higher death rate per million than the Covid-19/21.

So the US would need 2,827,500 deaths to be as deadly as the 1918-20 Spanish Flu.

INTERESTING SIDE NOTE: Given what we know about 1918, I like to see someone run a computer model of a Covid-19/21 Pandemic in 1918, with ITD projections.

Posted by NN2N1 2021-09-21 08:36|| 2021-09-21 08:36|| Front Page Top

#3 I think we need to clear up that whole entire prepostion question first, 'of' or 'with'?

Posted by Cesare 2021-09-21 09:50|| 2021-09-21 09:50|| Front Page Top

#4 I am still waiting for one documented 'superspreader' event.

Hope it's this one

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Posted by Skidmark 2021-09-21 10:30|| 2021-09-21 10:30|| Front Page Top

#5 old-age has killed many more.

Posted by irish rage boy 2021-09-21 10:36|| 2021-09-21 10:36|| Front Page Top

#6
#3 beat me to it.

Posted by Vespasian Ebboting9735 2021-09-21 11:23|| 2021-09-21 11:23|| Front Page Top

#7 the most amazing thing is that the Coof has reduced deaths from seasonal flu to somewhere near zero.

science!

Posted by Retard Strength 2021-09-21 12:13|| 2021-09-21 12:13|| Front Page Top

#8 Now compare numbers without NY and Cuomo's homicidal health care for the elderly.

Posted by ruprecht 2021-09-21 12:38|| 2021-09-21 12:38|| Front Page Top

#9 Take Michigan's Nursing Home 'turfing' out of there too, ruprecht.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2021-09-21 12:48|| 2021-09-21 12:48|| Front Page Top

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