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2021-05-01 Government Corruption
'Congratulations, you've killed Bin Laden': Moment Pakistani military commander told Obama the hunt was over - after Biden asked aides 'you think he's really going to do this?' and WH staff questioned how The Rock found out before the rest of the world
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news]
  • A new oral history recounts President Barack Obama's decision to authorize the raid on the bin Laden family compound in Pakistan

  • It describes the efforts to positively identify the top terror leader before and after his death

  • Pakistani military chief of staff Gen. Ashfaq Kayani provided information when U.S. officials finally called to tell him of the raid

  • Biden viewed his role as trying to 'stretch out his options' when giving Obama advice
But the real purpose of the article is to portray Joe Biden as a steely-eyed statesman:
The new oral history by Garrett Graff also describes the difficult decision to decide whether to go ahead with the raid.

The contours of that advice is already known: with former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reluctantly urging action, and former Vice President Joe Biden stressing caution.

According to former deputy national security advisor Ben Rhodes, Biden's role in a key Thursday strategy session before Obama authorized the raid was partly the role of 'devil's advocate' – just hours before a raid that had to take place between Friday and Monday because there would be no moon.

Biden, the former chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, stressed the potential for blowback in Pakistan – whose government was infuriated by the incursion into its territory. The U.S. feared providing notice could cause a leak that would botch the operation.

'Biden had worked a lot on Pakistan over the years, and he really laid out the risk of this going wrong and the potential for confrontation with the Pakistanis,' said Rhodes.

'Our embassy being overrun, the fallout that could ensue. I don’t remember it as being firmly against as much as it being about like, “I’m going to point out the downsides that you need to consider from the perspective of Pakistan.”

Said former CIA Director John Brennan: 'I think Joe Biden was most concerned about if it was a failed mission, what it would mean for Barack Obama and his prospects for a second term.'

Following the Situation Room discussion that Rhodes called 'incredibly dramatic,' Biden pulled Rhodes and chief of staff Denis McDonough into a small conference room.

“You guys think he’s going to do this?” Biden asked.

'We both said, “Yes, absolutely. He always said he would.”'

'What was interesting about that is that Biden said, “Look, I see my role as trying to stretch out his options.” In a sense, Biden was just trying to make sure that Obama had a bunch of room for his decision-making. That always made me think that while he was opposed in the meeting, that some of his opposition was this role he saw for himself—he took a position against the grain to just create space,' said Rhodes.
Posted by Skidmark 2021-05-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [10 views ]  Top
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#1 'Congratulations, you killed Osama bin Laden,' Pakistani military chief of staff Gen. Ashfaq Kayani told the president....

How soon can we expect to receive your cheque ?
Posted by Besoeker 2021-05-01 05:50||   2021-05-01 05:50|| Front Page Top

#2 We should all be getting excited about the new lies?
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-05-01 08:04||   2021-05-01 08:04|| Front Page Top

#3 More lies designed to burnish our Brezhnev's image in the public eye as China, Iran and Russia take advantage of his dotage, corruption and stupidity.
Posted by Clise Fillmore9552 2021-05-01 08:23||   2021-05-01 08:23|| Front Page Top

#4 Biden counseled AGAINST killing that piece of shit
Posted by Frank G 2021-05-01 08:26||   2021-05-01 08:26|| Front Page Top

#5 When will Brezhn- er Biden accept Putin's challenge to debate him live, with no teleprompter or earbuds: “I want to invite President Biden to continue our discussion, but on the condition that we do it actually live. But with no delays, directly in an open, direct discussion.”
Posted by Glinegum Tingle1155 2021-05-01 08:33||   2021-05-01 08:33|| Front Page Top

#6 Contrary to the article Obama didn't want to do it either. The Generals forced it almost against his orders. If they had failed Obama would have had them responsible.

And the fact that Obama and Biden did not protect the local doctor Shakil Afridi who made the ultimate confirmation through blood samples to US intelligence that Osama was where he was in the targeted compound was a disgrace.

Posted by Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 2021-05-01 09:02||   2021-05-01 09:02|| Front Page Top

#7 /\ And the fact that Obama and Biden did not protect the local doctor Shakil Afridi who made the ultimate confirmation through blood samples to US intelligence that Osama was where he was in the targeted compound was a disgrace.

I agree fully, but Afridi partnered with some folks who excel at source exploitation and betrayal. I believe the correct term is... 'one-time source'.

Soetoro's reluctance may have been a feint orchestrated to permit 'plausible deniability' on the off-chance the mission ended in disaster. Knowing he was a loose lipped idiot, I doubt Soetoro or the Klingon's read Biden into the details or back-channel, bi-lateral planning. Can't fault them for that.

Yes, 'bi-lateral planning'. I'd bet a months social security that UBL was purchased.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-05-01 09:10||   2021-05-01 09:10|| Front Page Top

#8 is this a member of the same Pakistains that swore up and down that Pakistain had no members of Al Qaeda on their soil?

Tha Pakistain?
Posted by Retard Strength 2021-05-01 09:15||   2021-05-01 09:15|| Front Page Top

#9 And Gaylord absolutely did not want to authorize the raid. He identifies most closely with Bin Laden's brand of Sunni bullcrap
Posted by Retard Strength 2021-05-01 09:18||   2021-05-01 09:18|| Front Page Top

#10 
Posted by Skidmark 2021-05-01 10:26||   2021-05-01 10:26|| Front Page Top

#11 Someone's dropping a lot of monkey shit.
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-05-01 10:40||   2021-05-01 10:40|| Front Page Top

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