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Day 2: Boulder shooting suspect Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa was short-tempered, violent, former teammates say

Day 1 can be seen here.
Lone wolf on the FBI’s radar. BLUF: Syrian-American (came over with his family when he was three years old), possible paranoid schizophrenic, ISIS curious, had wanted but was unable to attack Trump rallies in February and March of 2020. Walked up to a grocery store and silently shot and killed the ten people he pointed his gun at. Fifteen security agencies from local police to SWAT to FBI descended on the store within minutes of the first call.
See also here.

[DenverPost] The 21-year-old Arvada man arrested in Monday’s mass shooting at a Boulder King Sooper’s was ~~violent~~ mostly peaceful, short-tempered and paranoid during high school, his former classmates said Tuesday.

Alissa purchased a Ruger AR-556 pistol seven days before the attack, according to a police affidavit released Tuesday.

Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa is suspected of killing 10 people at the grocery store Monday when he walked in around 2:30 p.m. and began shooting, according to law enforcement. He was taken into custody about an hour later and was shot in the leg during the incident.

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He attended Arvada West High School from 2015 until he graduated in 2018, Jeffco Public Schools spokeswoman Cameron Bell confirmed Tuesday. He was on the wrestling team his junior and senior years.

"He was kind of scary to be around," said Dayton Marvel, a teammate on the wrestling team. Alissa once had an outburst and threatened to kill people during an intra-team match, Marvel said.

"His senior year, during the wrestle-offs to see who makes varsity, he actually lost his match and quit the team and yelled out in the wrestling room that he was like going to kill everybody," Marvel said. "Nobody believed him. We were just all kind of freaked out by it, but nobody did anything about it."

He said he did not like spending time with Alissa, and Alissa was not close with anyone on the wrestling team. Another teammate, Angel Hernandez — who lives in Arvada and graduated from Arvada West in 2019 — said Alissa got into a fight in the parking lot after the match.

"(The other wrestler) was just teasing him and goes, ’Maybe if you were a better wrestler, you would have won.’ (Alissa) just lost it. He started punching him," Hernandez said.

Hernandez said Alissa frequently appeared to be paranoid about perceived slights against him, and Marvel said Alissa was often concerned about being targeted because of his Moslem faith.

"He would talk about him being Moslem and how if anybody tried anything, he would file a hate crime and say they were making it up," Marvel said. "It was a crazy deal. I just know he was a pretty cool kid until something made him mad, and then whatever made him mad, he went over the edge — way too far."

"He was always talking about (how) people were looking at him and there was no one ever where he was pointing people out," Hernandez said. "We always thought he was messing around with us or something."

In 2017, Alissa, then 18, attacked a classmate at Arvada West High School, according to an affidavit filed in the case. He punched the classmate in the head without warning, and when the boy fell to the ground, Alissa continued to punch him. The classmate suffered bruises and cuts to his head, according to the affidavit.

Witnesses told police they didn’t see or hear any reason for Alissa to attack the classmate. Alissa told officers that the classmate "had made fun of him and called him racial names weeks earlier," according to the affidavit.

Alissa purchased a Ruger AR-556 pistol seven days before the attack, according to a police affidavit released Tuesday. He bought the gun on March 16. The weapon, which looks similar to a rifle, has a 30-round capacity, according to Ruger’s website.

A relative told Sherlocks Monday night that she’d seen Alissa "playing" with a gun that looked like a "machine gun" about two days prior, according to the affidavit.

"Alissa had been talking about having a bullet stuck in the gun and was playing with the gun," the affidavit said. Others became upset that he had the gun inside their Arvada home and took it from him, the relative told police, although she believed it had later been returned to him.

CNN adds:

A search of the suspect's suburban Denver home turned up other weapons, a senior law enforcement source said Tuesday. The weapon used in the attack was an AR-15-style pistol modified with an arm brace, according to the source.

Authorities believe Alissa was the only person involved and that there was no additional threat to the community.

The warrant described Alissa as being armed with either an assault rifle or "black AR-15" and wearing a "tactical" or "armored" vest.

The suspect had "removed all of his clothing and was dressed only in shorts" when he was taken into custody, the affidavit said. Outside the store, the document said, Alissa wouldn't tell police if there were other suspects.

Alissa was not very political or particularly religious, according to his brother, who said he never heard the young man threaten to use violence.

Related: The Post Millennial has screenshots of Mr. Alissa’s anti-Trump tweets here.

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File under: Devout Moslems

#1 Why did he drive all the way to Boulder?

That's not anywhere close to his neighborhood. I've not seen anything to indicate he went to school or worked there.

Posted by Spimp Grundy7785 2021-03-24 01:24|| 2021-03-24 01:24|| Front Page Top

#2 I question the term "was".

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-03-24 02:36|| 2021-03-24 02:36|| Front Page Top

#3 ^^^^^
Maybe he was playing the "Rolling Stones" and, and, and the boulders in his head got bolder, and bolder, and bolder.

Posted by Hupavise Glurt8795 2021-03-24 02:38|| 2021-03-24 02:38|| Front Page Top

#4

A handful of questions:
1. Not knowing the latest ATF constantly moving regulations. Would the AR-556 pistol be considered a SBR and require a ATF Tax Stamp? Or was this a Pistol at all and just a PR renamed AR-15 with a collapse-able stock.

2. Does Colorado have a Ban on all magazines that can hold more than fifteen rounds? If so is the AR-556 "pistol" sold in CO. with a high-capacity Mag? Besides what difference would it make? One or 2 "legal" mags would have done the trick.

3. What are the State or Boulders "Good guy" self defense laws?
Did their Gun carry laws preclude persons from being able to defend themselves? Thus making it easier for Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa.

4. It seems the media reports I have read avoided this next question. Was he radicalized ? Because reading some of his captured before censored FB posts he seemed to have a major issue with Christians. (eg. “The Muslims at the #christchurch mosque were not the victims of a single shooter. They were the victims of the entire Islamophobia industry that vilified them.”

5. Where he get the $800+ to purchase a AR-556? What job did he have that allowed him to save for $100 for 8 to 10 weeks to
make these purchases? NOTE: These are being sold at gun shows for well over $1,500.00

6. Why is it nut jobs can find 556/223 ammo? When everyone else's store shelves are bare?

7. Doesn't it seem coincidental that just as the Socialist Democrats are moving to stabilize their COUP's control with HR-1 Gun Controls or more likely Bans. That this almost perfect match for their agenda happens?

8. Now that the Social media has had 40+ hours to erase his tracks. What do we really know about him that he said about himself? Because all we have now are 2nd hand statements that he was a school bully.

9. I wonder if Colorado voters IF allowed would re-establish the Death Penalty that their politicians eliminated almost a year and a day of this Mass shooting? March 23, 2020, Colorado became the 22nd U.S. state to abolish the death penalty.

10. Was he and his family Green Card/Visa holders or US Citizens? If a Visa holder (non-US Citizen) how was he able to purchase the weapon and pass the background check?

11. Noting the medias (timely)comments of how Ahmad disliked Trumps Immigration policies and etc...Why did Ahmad do this during the Trump Admin instead of waiting for the Anti-Gun Agenda enhancing Harris/Pelosi Admin.

Posted by NN2N1 2021-03-24 06:17|| 2021-03-24 06:17|| Front Page Top

#5 I wonder if this guy followed a religious text that told him all his sociopathic outbursts against the infidel were justified?

Islam is like a force multiplier for schizoids

Posted by Bob Grorong1136 2021-03-24 07:30|| 2021-03-24 07:30|| Front Page Top

#6 Any AR platform pistol is a pistol, until you put a rifle stock on it, at which point it becomes an SBR, subject to NFA regulations. Think about that for a minute. Changing the stock, but leaving the barrel alone changes it from a pistol to a rifle. Ooooookaaaayyy...

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-03-24 09:54|| 2021-03-24 09:54|| Front Page Top

#7 How'd he afford it? Can you say stimulus money?

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-03-24 09:55|| 2021-03-24 09:55|| Front Page Top

#8 Since schools aren't open everywhere, next place for a mass shooting (regardless of timing or political convenience for certain agendas) is a crowded store.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-03-24 09:58|| 2021-03-24 09:58|| Front Page Top

#9 Alissa purchased a Ruger AR-556 pistol At the Rueger website, it is definately a long-barreled gun with a (collapsible??) stock.

has a 30-round capacity, according to Ruger’s website. You can buy it with a 30-round mag, unless you want one that's "state compliant", which offers a ten-round mag.

Has someone confused the first weapon with the second description? Was there a second weapon?

Posted by Bobby 2021-03-24 10:32|| 2021-03-24 10:32|| Front Page Top

#10 #1 Arvada to Boulder is 21 miles, 32 minutes per MapQuest. Not based on addresses, just cities.

Posted by Bobby 2021-03-24 10:37|| 2021-03-24 10:37|| Front Page Top

#11 He probably chose Boulder because he could feel fairly sure there would be few people caring weapons among the civilian population.

Posted by Harry Sforza6078 2021-03-24 12:14|| 2021-03-24 12:14|| Front Page Top

#12 Boulder is a Gun Free Zone.

Posted by swksvolFF 2021-03-24 12:17|| 2021-03-24 12:17|| Front Page Top

#13 ^^^

Won't be a "Gun Free Zone" for long, unless the inhabitants are completely clueless and Biden Socialists

Posted by Crudity Correct4029 2021-03-24 12:23|| 2021-03-24 12:23|| Front Page Top

#14 These nidulariaceae only clutch their totems closer, draw a 2 and 3 call double down, and dismiss those who 'shop there' as lesser beings.

Posted by swksvolFF 2021-03-24 12:34|| 2021-03-24 12:34|| Front Page Top

#15 Was he and his family Green Card/Visa holders or US Citizens?

He is described as an American citizen.

he seemed to have a major issue with Christians.

I’ve been reading that as Dar el Harb, the house of war where Moslems are not running everything. He doesn’t seem very bright, even aside from paranoia and a hair-trigger temper, so I don’t think there is any deeper philosophy involved.

Where he get the $800+

He is living in his older brother’s house, who is probably supporting him as unable to work or as the much younger baby of the family— he doesn’t seem to have done anything at all since graduating from high school a few years ago, but the happy photos published by the Daily Mail linked yesterday suggest family money. I suspect birthday and/or ~~Christmas~~ Ramadan money, or just a shared credit card. The sister-in-law did not question that he had a gun, just that he was playing with it in public, and assumed it was put in his bedroom when the family took it away from him when he did so. And he drove on his own to the King Sooper in his brother’s car, arriving with two guns, not just the new handgun.

So either he had at least two guns or, as seems to me more likely, the family had a small collection.

Why did Ahmad do this during the Trump Admin instead of waiting for the Anti-Gun Agenda enhancing Harris/Pelosi Admin.

He is only just 21; schizophrenia blossoms about this age, making the impulses that much harder to resist. Also, he had wanted to go after Trump rallies a year ago, but just at that point the Covid lockdowns started. I suspect rather that he could no longer resist the drive to kill, so went for a nearby well-populated place instead of waiting until at least next year for another Trump rally.

I wonder if it will soon be discovered that he was a longtime pot smoker who’d recently upped his intake.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-24 14:39|| 2021-03-24 14:39|| Front Page Top

#16 1) He was paranoid schizo, hyper-sensitive to perceived slights.
2) He was a HS wrestler without any academic or professional ambition. Not a reader of books or explorer of ideas.
3) He was uninformed about American society and evidently lacked any kind of social savvy or ability to distinguish between say white Colorado Springs Trumpers and white Boulder global-hippies

If the above point to anything, it's outside, foreign influence. Who on this planet lumps together white American leftists and white American conservatives? Only foreign jihadis.

Posted by Ebbatle Ulusomp4901 2021-03-24 14:54|| 2021-03-24 14:54|| Front Page Top

#17 I read an opinion piece some time back that the pro-gay, pro-drug, anti-God platform of the leftists really tugs their beards.

Not that islamists don't do drugs; we know better than that.

Posted by swksvolFF 2021-03-24 16:44|| 2021-03-24 16:44|| Front Page Top

#18 ^What about gay?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-03-24 16:57|| 2021-03-24 16:57|| Front Page Top

#19 "The New York Times reported on Tuesday that he was known to the FBI because he was linked to another person who has been under investigation for something else. They didn’t give any more details."

Posted by Slats Unerens9945 2021-03-24 17:21|| 2021-03-24 17:21|| Front Page Top

#20 Could the other person be his dad, Moustafa Alissa?

Apparently per dad's FB page he's a big supporter of the Erdogan regime who rants about "revenge" against Assad, Putin, and Trump among other matters

Posted by Herb Bourbon3348 2021-03-24 17:32|| 2021-03-24 17:32|| Front Page Top

#21 Different Q: wth did he strip off his clothes? What drugs was he on?

Or, as SteveSailer posits, was he trying to signal to the SWAT team that he had no boomer-vest and therefore could be taken alive?

Posted by Cholunter Hapsburg7716 2021-03-24 17:35|| 2021-03-24 17:35|| Front Page Top

#22 Why did he drive all the way to Boulder?

In the other thread, this post by NoMoreBS looks like the answer, Spimp Grundy7785:

#11 No Motive known? The goddam grocery story was described as the best place for Kosher Shopping on its own website, the local Jewish community is in shock, and the guy chose the 5th anniversary of the Brussels shootings.. Goddam government is past being cowardly, they are flat out political now!
https://andmagazine.com/talk/2021/03/24/ignoring-the-facts-why-did-the-boulder-shooting-suspect-choose-his-target/

Do you have a link about the father, Herb Bourbon3348? Interesting that this is the first I’ve seen him mentioned.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-24 18:46|| 2021-03-24 18:46|| Front Page Top

#23 https://www.thefolliesofdistributism.com/2021/03/moustafa-al-issa-father-of-muslim.html?m=1

Posted by Cholugum Guelph3634 2021-03-24 22:16|| 2021-03-24 22:16|| Front Page Top

#24 "7. Doesn't it seem coincidental that just as the Socialist Democrats are moving to stabilize their COUP's control with HR-1 Gun Controls or more likely Bans. That this almost perfect match for their agenda happens?"

I believe the left is always working on a number of regulations to further their agenda and just push it forward at every opportunity. Even adjusting the narrative a bit here and here as necessary in the early days before facts are in if necessary.

Posted by ruprecht 2021-03-24 22:26|| 2021-03-24 22:26|| Front Page Top

#25 Thank you, Cholugum Guelph3634.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-24 22:32|| 2021-03-24 22:32|| Front Page Top

#26 Moustafa Alissa, the Prophet and shooter's dad:

"If America wanted to exterminate ISIS and clean out Vaghdad it could do so in a week. But the ISIS "terrorist threat" is America's pretext for entering and destroying Syria... ."

Posted by Glinegum Untervehr9492 2021-03-24 22:44|| 2021-03-24 22:44|| Front Page Top

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