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2020-10-14 -Lurid Crime Tales-
Whitmer ‘Kidnapping Plot' May Have Been An FBI Entrapment Of A Bunch Of Crackpots
[Federalist] A recent thwarted plan to take Michigan Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer hostage could have been an FBI entrapment, a defense attorney suggested Tuesday for one of six men charged with conspiracy to kidnap.
If so, given the immediate FBI claim that this was the work of rightwing, white supremacist militia, this was an attempt to create and strengthen prejudice against Republicans and influence the presidential election. And if so, all those at the FBI involved in it should be examined to see if they need to be fired or jailed for it.
Scott Graham, who is representing 26-year-old Kaleb Franks, argued in court there was no real plan to capture Whitmer. Instead, he said the accused were merely acting as "militia wannabees" who engaged in "big talk between crackpots," according to the Detroit Free Press. In other words, Graham said, those charged in a plot to kidnap Whitmer were "people who talk a lot ... but are never going to do anything."

"Have you ever dealt with big talkers?" Graham asked an FBI Special Agent Richard Trask during cross examination. "There’s kind of a military-wanna-be theme that runs between militias."

Graham specifically asked Trask about his testimony that 13 militia members were planning to steal Whitmer from her vacation home and leave her in the middle of Lake Michigan or try the governor for treason in a nearby state. Trask, the paper reported, said he couldn’t offer a specific answer but that there were audio recordings of the members discussing their plans.

Graham argued in court that it was the FBI’s own informant involved with this group that was actively encouraging the others to engage in illegal activity.
Posted by Besoeker 2020-10-14 03:55|| || Front Page|| [13 views ]  Top

#1 Graham argued in court that it was the FBI’s own informant involved with this group that was actively encouraging the others to engage in illegal activity.

Interesting if true.
Posted by Besoeker 2020-10-14 04:05||   2020-10-14 04:05|| Front Page Top

#2 ^But not surprising for anyone who remembers the 80es.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-14 04:06||   2020-10-14 04:06|| Front Page Top

#3 Not the first time. Randy Weacer wasn't the first time.
Posted by Richard Aubrey 2020-10-14 05:20||   2020-10-14 05:20|| Front Page Top

#4 And if so, all those at the FBI involved in it should be examined to see if they need to be fired or jailed for it.

You mean like those who were warned by someone in the rank and file that Muslims taking flight training ought to be looked at. I don't recall people being sacked or punished (other than the whistle blower) over that FU. You got to make examples. Just like you punish people who commit crimes, pour encourager les autres! Portland is a living example of doing exactly the opposite. Our senior FBI management is just another.
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-10-14 07:54||   2020-10-14 07:54|| Front Page Top

#5 /\ There was a brief kerfuffle following the FBI whistleblower and muzzi Florida flight training revelation. It was short-lived and nothing apparently ever came of it.

In other news:

Oct 4, 2012 — FBI agents made a brief visit to Benghazi this week to examine the scene of ... that killed four Americans -- after being delayed for weeks because of ... As the FBI investigates, an independent panel has been established by ...

Sort of SOP with the bureau it would appear.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-10-14 08:03||   2020-10-14 08:03|| Front Page Top

#6 I’m sure these fellows played along with the intention of informing the FBI at the last minute and becoming heroes. You know, instead of informing the FBI right away to get some kind of help.
Posted by Rjschwarz 2020-10-14 08:10||   2020-10-14 08:10|| Front Page Top

#7  You mean like those who were warned by someone in the rank and file that Muslims taking flight training ought to be looked at.

Not believing information and not acting is one thing, Procopius2k. Creating the incident, then lying about actors known to them in order to alter the political atmosphere is quite another.

They did create an incident by goading those Muslim shooters to go down to Texas to try to massacre the participants at Pamela Geller’s Draw Muhammed cartoon contest — the one where the off duty local policeman killed them both at a distance with his handgun, if I recall correctly (people here were very impressed with his shooting skills, so I am, too). But afterward the FBI did not try to tell us it was Jewish commandos just to give them a bad name.
Posted by trailing wife 2020-10-14 08:53||   2020-10-14 08:53|| Front Page Top

#8 Not a surprise. Been happening since at least Ruby Ridge. With social media it is even easier. Just put in one silly comment and idiots like these can't help themselves.
Posted by DarthVader 2020-10-14 09:10||   2020-10-14 09:10|| Front Page Top

#9 Please add the Tsarnaev brothers and Paki DNC IT guru Imran Awan to the list of strange FBI related occurrences.
Posted by Besoeker 2020-10-14 09:15||   2020-10-14 09:15|| Front Page Top

#10 #DefundTheFBI.
Posted by charger 2020-10-14 12:23||   2020-10-14 12:23|| Front Page Top

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