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2020-09-02 Home Front: WoT
Guantanamo detainee not entitled to due process claims, appeals court rules
[AmMilitaryNews] A U.S. federal appeals court ruled on Friday against a Guantanamo Bay detainee who claimed President Donald Trump
...dictatorial for repealing some (but not all) of the diktats of his predecessor, misogynistic because he likes pretty girls, homophobic because he doesn't think gender bending should be mandatory, truly a man for all seasons......
’s authority to detain him indefinitely posed a violation of due process.

Abdulsalam Ali Abdulrahman Al Hela, a Yemen

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...an area of the Arabian Peninsula sometimes mistaken for a country. It is populated by more antagonistic tribes and factions than you can keep track of...
i businessman who has been detained by the U.S. since 2004, had tried to win release with a habeas corpus petition to either proceed with a trial or let him go. On Friday, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia denied Al Hela’s due process claim, upholding a lower court’s 2019 decision striking down his request.

In its 47-page opinion, the court ruled Al Hela did not have grounds to raise his trial demands. The court ruled Al Hela has been detained under a valid use of the Suspension Clause, suspending his right to demand a speedy trial. The Suspension Clause of the constitution, Article I, Section 9, Clause 2, states "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."

The court said Al Hela does not have the right to raise due process claims challenging the Suspension Clause because the Due Process Clause does not apply to non-citizens who do not hold property or have a presence in the U.S.

"We affirm the district court because the President has authority to detain Al Hela and the proceedings below complied with the requirements of the Suspension Clause," Judge Neomi Rao wrote in the court’s opinion Friday. "We reject Al Hela’s due process claims because the Due Process Clause may not be invoked by aliens without property or presence in the sovereign territory of the United States."

Al Hela has been detained at Guantanamo Bay since 2004 and is alleged to have had contacts with Al Qaeda and two other terror organizations, the Egyptian Islamic Jihad
...created after many members of the Egyptian Moslem Brotherhood decided the organization was becoming too moderate. Operations were conducted out of Egypt until 1981 when the group was exiled after the assassination of President Anwar Sadat. They worked out of Gaza until they were exiled to Lebanon in 1987, where they clove tightly to Hezbollah. In 1989 they moved to Damascus, where they remain a subsidiary of Hezbollah...
and the Aden-Abyan
...a governorate of Yemen. The region was a base to the Aden-Abyan Islamic Army terrorist group until it dropped the name and joined al-Qaeda. Its capital is Zinjibar. In March 2011, al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula declared the governate an Islamic Emirate after seizing control of the region. The New York Times fastidiously reported that those in control, while Islamic hard boyz, are not in fact al-Qaeda, but something else that looks, tastes, smells, and acts the same. Yemeni government forces launched an effort to re-establish control of the region when President-for-Life Saleh was tossed and the carnage continues...
Islamic Army.
Goodness — such a busy man!
Al Hela has filed previous due process claims in 2005 and 2014 and Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama
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, respectively.

The Pentagon’s Periodic Review Board has routinely ruled in favor of continuing Al Hela’s detention. In a 2016 decision, the Pentagon board determined that "continued law of war detention of the detainee [Al Hela] remains necessary to protect against a continuing significant threat to the security of the United States."

Guantanamo Bay has been used to hold hundreds of suspected murderous Moslems since the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. According to the New York Times

...which still proudly displays Walter Duranty's Pulitzer prize...

’ Guantanamo Bay docket tracker, around 780 people have been held at the U.S. detention facility in Cuba and some 40 detainees still remain at the facility.
Posted by trailing wife 2020-09-02 00:13|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top
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#1 Have his Pro-bono lawyers caged with him
Posted by Frank G 2020-09-02 04:24||   2020-09-02 04:24|| Front Page Top

#2 They're POWs not civilians.

The Red Guard doesn't understand the if and when Insurrection is declared, they become POWs as well. Aiding and abetting comes into play for other members of the 'Resistance' to include judges who try to claim purview.
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-09-02 05:02||   2020-09-02 05:02|| Front Page Top

#3 ^Unlawful combatants surely?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-09-02 06:16||   2020-09-02 06:16|| Front Page Top

#4 #2 No, they are not POW's and neither would BLM/Antifa be POW's. They are not members of a uniformed military acting on behalf of any established government, ANYWHERE.

They are a crowd, there being no recognizable units, of renegades and are 'due' at best minimal treatment. At the end of WWII there was a modest but pointed issue with non-uniformed men under arms trying to do mean things to Allied occupying forces.

The solution was along the lines of '1st Sgt, get a detail of the sick lame and lazy and make sure their weapons are loaded. Get that new Lt into town to round up 5 respectable citizens and some kind of holy man, then get these jokers some shovels and get them to digging. Oh, and find a stout wall.'
Posted by Cesare 2020-09-02 07:18||   2020-09-02 07:18|| Front Page Top

#5 The soldiers of the South were treated as POWs in the insurrection. Uniforms were anything but at times. By your first sentence, the Crown could have considered all those 'rebels' the same. Numerous 'exchanges' were made by both parties in both confrontations and treated the others as POWs in both cases.
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-09-02 09:08||   2020-09-02 09:08|| Front Page Top

#6 IIRC, under the Geneva Convention, the prisoners at Gitmo are illegal combatants. They can be given a courtmartial, and, if found guilty, can be executed.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2020-09-02 09:50||   2020-09-02 09:50|| Front Page Top

#7 Bingo. However, our lords and masters in our judiciary aristocracy will not allow it.
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-09-02 10:17||   2020-09-02 10:17|| Front Page Top

#8 Confederate soldiers were treated as POW's, mostly...see Custer in Northern Virginia vs Col Mosby whom he briefly considered a renegade. Also you might consider the guerilla actions in MO/KS, whose ugly legacy reverberates to this day.

That said, Confederate soldiers were highly participatory members of organized units with distinct chains of command. So participatory that some units voted on every issue, rank down to corporal and even at times which orders would be obeyed.

They acted under the direction of officers appointed by an elected government, even if that government's objective was secession and insurrection.

The communist vermin doing the burning and looting are less than none of those things. They would not secede or set up any alternative to anything whatsoever. They want to outrage, provoke, and destroy, mainly at the behest of their check writing masters. When their utility wears off and the money dries up they will go back to being disaffected revolutionary dishwashers.

The Crown DID treat many, many as purely rebels although in a time which pre-dated any international agreements about the treatment of prisoners. The Crown also had learned their lesson from le Francais in the 7 Years' War and maintained their Indian allies to do what might be difficult to reconcile later back in England. Also see Banastre Tarleton and the separate experience of young Andrew Jackson.
Posted by Cesare 2020-09-02 11:46||   2020-09-02 11:46|| Front Page Top

#9 Re: Illegal Combatants

Note to self: Court-martial THEN execution. Sorry for any misunderstanding. Our bad!
Posted by SteveS 2020-09-02 15:18||   2020-09-02 15:18|| Front Page Top

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