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2020-08-11 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Sweden's Success is Kryptonite for Lockdown and Mask Advocates

[Substack.com] Here in the United States, we have become inundated with tales of COVID-19 doom and gloom. In America, the mainstream narrative is rife with hopelessness. We are told that there is simply no way to stop this virus without repetitive lockdowns, healthy quarantine, even of asymptomatic individuals, and universal mask mandates. And even with all of those extreme policy measures put in place, the politicians and public health officials tell us that we will have to wait for a vaccine for the country to even think about our "new normal" following the COVID-19 pandemic.

There’s one country that they don’t seem to want to talk about - Sweden. And for good reason. Sweden debunks the hysteria. Sweden shows how unnecessary all of the interventions to "fight" the virus are. Sweden shows us that a rational, evidence-based approach to the pandemic is now thriving.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-08-11 04:19|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 But you are "ugly" if you bring any of that up.

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-08-11 04:22|| 2020-08-11 04:22|| Front Page Top

#2 Tough it out.

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-08-11 04:24|| 2020-08-11 04:24|| Front Page Top

#3 Swedish health authorities are investigating the long-term effects of the coronavirus, after many patients reported that although they were suffering a relatively mild illness their symptoms refused to go away.

An example of how the bioweapon was supposed to work?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-08-11 05:15|| 2020-08-11 05:15|| Front Page Top

#4 Is that foil torqued down tight enough?

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-08-11 05:37|| 2020-08-11 05:37|| Front Page Top

#5 Accidental release of a delivery system for a Red Chinese bioweapon was an early contender for the source of this thing. Has it been debunked?

Posted by trailing wife 2020-08-11 06:40|| 2020-08-11 06:40|| Front Page Top

#6 No doubt it was released from China. The "we'll just add in a little more heart disease here, a little more hair loss there," is for the weak minded.

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-08-11 07:08|| 2020-08-11 07:08|| Front Page Top

#7 We only believe that fits our preconceptions.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-08-11 08:15|| 2020-08-11 08:15|| Front Page Top

#8 Except for those with "Excel derived" immunity.

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-08-11 08:59|| 2020-08-11 08:59|| Front Page Top

#9 A bioweapon remains a possibility until it is conclusively to not be a bioweapon. That's how possibilities and theories work (especially when we know so little about the origins of something). That doesn't mean it necessarily is one. Just that we can't eliminate the theory as a possibility.

Posted by Vernal Hatrick 2020-08-11 09:02|| 2020-08-11 09:02|| Front Page Top

#10 The biggest problem is that the Media and Politicians lie about the virus to promote various agendas. The best way to defeat the virus it to get rid of the Media and the Politicians.

Posted by Thaith Elmeresing6163 2020-08-11 09:29|| 2020-08-11 09:29|| Front Page Top

#11 Well it's lucky Sweden got it out the way quickly rather than drag it on and evade herd immunity as the rest of the west has disastrously done, while also killing more by a) shutting down non-covid treatment and b) shutting the economy.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-08-11 09:57|| 2020-08-11 09:57|| Front Page Top

#12 I wonder why all the "covid-sceptics" always site Sweeeeeden as a glorious example of herd immunity, but none cites Brasil - which has also forgone lockdown?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-08-11 10:16|| 2020-08-11 10:16|| Front Page Top

#13 Herd immunity or not, countries waited way to long to start the lockdown. COVID is now just like the flu and will be with us for a very long time. Open up, let it burn through because you can't contain it.

Posted by DarthVader 2020-08-11 10:26|| 2020-08-11 10:26|| Front Page Top

#14 #12 but none cites Brasil

With apologies to Florida Orange Juice Growers: "Narrative. It's not just for leftists anymore."

Posted by Hupalet Pelosi5667 2020-08-11 10:33|| 2020-08-11 10:33|| Front Page Top

#15 I think it was about three months ago we decided that Sweden's die was cast.

How much more time do the models need to predict the utter collapse of, well, anywhere?

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-08-11 11:11|| 2020-08-11 11:11|| Front Page Top

#16 Brazil is right behind the US, in deaths per capital, but ahead of Sweden, France, Italy, Spain, U.K., and Belgium. Riddle me that.

Posted by Bobby 2020-08-11 11:29|| 2020-08-11 11:29|| Front Page Top

#17 I think it was about three months ago we decided that Sweden's die was cast.

Sweden's die was cast long before Xi's gift. The reason they had a relatively low number of casualties (only 10 times of their neighbors) is because they already practice distancing. For example, 40% of Swedish households are single person.
They're simply dying out - replaced by immigrants.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-08-11 11:52|| 2020-08-11 11:52|| Front Page Top

#18 #16 Because they started later, Bobby. It's exponential growth (you understand compound interest?)

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-08-11 11:58|| 2020-08-11 11:58|| Front Page Top

#19 grom, you do realize Brazil is pretty much a shithole. Might be why they have so many cases because of the nastiness of the slums.

Posted by Chris 2020-08-11 12:39|| 2020-08-11 12:39|| Front Page Top

#20 #5, no. The theory that covid-19 is a Chinese bioweapon has not been debunked. The CCP is innocent until proven guilty but their behavior is undeniably suspicious.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-08-11 12:42|| 2020-08-11 12:42|| Front Page Top

#21 #19. (a) Actually, slum dwellers have better immune systems than you (or I). Google gnotobiotic.
(b) Indian slums are not much different from Brazilian - but the two countries have very different covid stats. Hint, it's not due to HCQ, as Brazil adopted it enthusiastically.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-08-11 12:56|| 2020-08-11 12:56|| Front Page Top

#22 The lockdown was a mistake. Now government is doubling down rather than admit it was wrong. So when an actual pandemic comes along with a virus that really is scary, no one will believe government. It'll be much worse than it needed to be.

Posted by Iblis 2020-08-11 12:56|| 2020-08-11 12:56|| Front Page Top

#23 HCQ could resurrect the dead and you'd still deny it, G.

Posted by Frank G 2020-08-11 13:46|| 2020-08-11 13:46|| Front Page Top

#24 Never denied it's a good prophylactic.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-08-11 14:33|| 2020-08-11 14:33|| Front Page Top

#25 always site Sweeeeeden

Was a beloved, very beloved mod here who used the drawn-out-in-writing trope to denigrate things.

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-08-11 14:41|| 2020-08-11 14:41|| Front Page Top

#26 So the people who have stayed home for six months have actually weakened their immune system, making them more susceptible to illness?

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-08-11 14:42|| 2020-08-11 14:42|| Front Page Top

#27 Walking less? Getting in and out off the car less? If that's the most exercise you get (most people) you are getting less.

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-08-11 15:10|| 2020-08-11 15:10|| Front Page Top

#28 Did you know: Driving a car with a clutch is good for burning an extra 1500 calories a week.

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-08-11 15:11|| 2020-08-11 15:11|| Front Page Top

#29 #28 Just what's your weekly mileage?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-08-11 15:18|| 2020-08-11 15:18|| Front Page Top

#30 Excel man needs a magic number for another cell.

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-08-11 16:09|| 2020-08-11 16:09|| Front Page Top

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