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2020-04-06 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

They won't make money on affordable hydroxychloroquine, but they will make money on a vaccine.

[Bernard B. Karik 40th Police Commissioner of the New York City Police Department, and NY Times bestselling author] "Fauci is the only guy in the whole fucking world that doesn’t think this stuff works! At what point do we question his motives? It’s against all logic and common sense."

Posted by Besoeker 2020-04-06 02:54|| || Front Page|| [11138 views ] Top

#1 Lupus treatment that is in very short supply at this time as a result of all this interest. A lady who said she is prescribed this. So short she can't get it.

Posted by Dale 2020-04-06 04:19|| 2020-04-06 04:19|| Front Page Top

#2 Stupid. A vaccine ends this, completely. The various chloroquine treatments are only used after you get it; right now there's little evidence of a protective effect.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2020-04-06 04:28|| 2020-04-06 04:28|| Front Page Top

#3 ^Hear, hear.

Posted by g(r)omgoru PB 2020-04-06 05:31|| 2020-04-06 05:31|| Front Page Top

#4 Fauci DEFINITELY ISN'T the only guy.

Posted by European Conservative 2020-04-06 05:53|| 2020-04-06 05:53|| Front Page Top

#5 If we could find out what biopharmaceutical stock Pelosi's and Feinstein's hubbies are buying....

Posted by Clem 2020-04-06 07:02|| 2020-04-06 07:02|| Front Page Top

#6 I wouldn't bet the farm on it working, but I wouldn't bet against it either. Too much anecdotal evidence in its favor. If I were in charge, I'd ramp up production as much as I could, but also make sure that those who were already using it for Lupus or whatever wouldn't have to worry about getting more.

Posted by gorb 2020-04-06 07:37|| 2020-04-06 07:37|| Front Page Top

#7 Okay, if anecdotal evidence seems to be that it mostly works is there conflicting anecdotal evidence that it doesn't work and/or makes the patient worse?

Way too much red-tape bureaucratic BS in the discussion. How many tests are being run that will answer all these "concerns"?

Who's running the tests, what are they and when will their be a report of results?

We really can't wait for years to get back to work.

Posted by AlanC 2020-04-06 08:21|| 2020-04-06 08:21|| Front Page Top

#8 Chloroquine apparently can have some nasty side effects, AlanC, but it doesn't kill you.

The Wuhan Coronavirus on the other hand...

Posted by Mullah Richard 2020-04-06 08:32|| 2020-04-06 08:32|| Front Page Top

#9 Side effects are alleged to be a risk of a slowed heart beat which should be monitored while on a high dose.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-04-06 09:08|| 2020-04-06 09:08|| Front Page Top

#10 Shouldn't drug companies worry about what will happen to their profits if a lot of old people - a major part of their market - die off while they rub their hands together and scheme about profits?

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-04-06 09:36|| 2020-04-06 09:36|| Front Page Top

#11 But the theraputic dose I've seen (400 mg/day) is not a high does. It's what I've taken for 13 years.

I'm just one anecdote, of course.

Posted by Bobby 2020-04-06 10:47|| 2020-04-06 10:47|| Front Page Top

#12 Thousands of coronavirus-infected New Yorkers treated with anti-malarial drug

Posted by Skidmark 2020-04-06 11:34|| 2020-04-06 11:34|| Front Page Top

#13 #12 As many as 4,000 seriously ill coronavirus patients in New York are being treated with the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine, state health officials say.

Once you seriously ill = have ARDS, too late for hydroxychloroquine.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-06 11:45|| 2020-04-06 11:45|| Front Page Top

#14 ^ People who are dying will put anything in their mouth if they think it will prevent that. If the stuff is in such short supply, who's deciding it will be wasted?

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-04-06 12:09|| 2020-04-06 12:09|| Front Page Top

#15 Never noticed any side-effects taking it for sixteen months in RVN.

Posted by Sgt. D.T. 2020-04-06 13:55|| 2020-04-06 13:55|| Front Page Top

#16 The call for the usual "tests" is ridiculous in that it dooms the control group to taking placebos when what they need is *treatment*. There's enough experimentation already done to notice the benefits, and the side effects have been known since the 50s (or longer). Its pedal to the metal time.

Posted by Crusader 2020-04-06 15:24|| 2020-04-06 15:24|| Front Page Top

#17 Medical group endorses anti-malarial drug treatment for coronavirus patients

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-04-06 16:33|| 2020-04-06 16:33|| Front Page Top

#18 The difference is that a vaccine is at least a year away, and we have hydroxylchloroquine now. That would seem to be a key factor here.

Posted by Iblis 2020-04-06 19:07|| 2020-04-06 19:07|| Front Page Top

#19 there's little evidence of a protective effect

Dr Oz said he was in contact with a Lupus DR. 800 folks, none infected. That is evidence.

Posted by Woodrow 2020-04-06 20:11|| 2020-04-06 20:11|| Front Page Top

#20 Let's see, nasty side effects OR nasty side effects and/or six feet under...I'll take nasty side effects for 1000 Alex.

Posted by bbrewer126 2020-04-06 20:18|| 2020-04-06 20:18|| Front Page Top

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