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2020-03-15 -Short Attention Span Theater-
A doctor and medical ethicist argues life after 75 is not worth living
[TECHNOLOGYREVIEW] In October 2014, Ezekiel Emanuel
... President Obama’s pet utilitarian ethicist, who admitted to lying to the public about Obamacare because it's important, and who continues to lie about it each time he opens his mouth...
published an essay in the Atlantic called "Why I Hope to Die at 75." Because Emanuel is a medical doctor and chair of the University of Pennsylvania’s department of medical ethics and health policy, as well as a chief architect of Obamacare
...aka the Affordable Care Act, an ineptly designed and worse executed piece of legislation designed to bring 17 percent of the U.S. economy under the direct control of the government. The previous iteration, known as Hillarycare, was laughed out of Washington. This stinker was passed on a party-line vote without being read...
, the article stirred enormous controversy.

Emanuel vowed to refuse not only heroic medical interventions once he turned 75, but also antibiotics and vaccinations. His argument: older Americans live too long in a diminished state, raising the question of, as he put it, "whether our consumption is worth our contribution."

Emanuel was born into a combative clan. One brother, Rahm, recently completed two terms as the controversial mayor of reliably Democrat Chicago, aka The Windy City or Mobtown
...home of Al Capone, the Chicago Black Sox, a succession of Daleys, Barak Obama, and Rahm Emmanuel...
; another brother, Ari, is a high-profile Hollywood agent. But even given his DNA, Emanuel’s death wish was a provocative argument from a medical ethicist and health-care expert.

Emanuel, now 62, talked with me about the social implications of longevity research and why he isn’t a fan of extending life spans. I was particularly curious to get his reaction to several promising new anti-aging drugs.
So we can say goodbye to this aged prune in another thirteen years? Or will he be Too Important to The Movement to peg out?
I vote the entire Emanuel line off the island Earth
Posted by Fred 2020-03-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ]  Top

#1 Today's my birthday. Turned seventy five. How about Emanual show up at my place and I'll kick his ass into the middle of last week.
Posted by Richard Aubrey 2020-03-15 00:47||   2020-03-15 00:47|| Front Page Top

#2 An "ethicist" who believes old people should be exterminated?

Is this a joke? Bee?
Posted by Lex 2020-03-15 01:37||   2020-03-15 01:37|| Front Page Top

#3 So, I still have 15 years?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-15 03:02||   2020-03-15 03:02|| Front Page Top

#4 My Grandmother got her Nursing license in her 70's. They changed age limit after her. One tough hard working woman all her life.
Posted by Dale 2020-03-15 04:54||   2020-03-15 04:54|| Front Page Top

#5 She lived till 92 as did her father.
Posted by Dale 2020-03-15 04:55||   2020-03-15 04:55|| Front Page Top

#6 Ever notice how leftists are primarily fixated on limiting the parameters of other people's lives?
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-03-15 05:49||   2020-03-15 05:49|| Front Page Top

#7 Remind me to get a new birth certificate every 10 years.
Posted by Airandee 2020-03-15 07:15||   2020-03-15 07:15|| Front Page Top

#8 Biden and Sanders first! Lead by example.
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-03-15 07:38||   2020-03-15 07:38|| Front Page Top

#9 #1 Happy 75 Richard and many more.

Eziekiel Emanuel, a certified moron. Must run in the family.
Posted by JohnQC 2020-03-15 07:42||   2020-03-15 07:42|| Front Page Top

#10 "whether our consumption is worth our contribution."


As previously noted that's one way to prune the Dems tree.

But this sounds like another way of saying "from each according....." Marxists always gonna Marx.
Posted by AlanC 2020-03-15 07:53||   2020-03-15 07:53|| Front Page Top

#11 What the hell is he waiting for, then?
Posted by Raj 2020-03-15 08:31||   2020-03-15 08:31|| Front Page Top

#12 I'm with Raj. Why is this moron still using our air?
Posted by Whiskey Mike 2020-03-15 10:36||   2020-03-15 10:36|| Front Page Top

#13 It may be that an 18-year old Chinese factory girl produces more widgets than her 85-year old grandma back in the sticks, but that doesn't mean that grandma isn't absolutely essential to the family's well-being. Contributions comes in many shapes and sizes.

But, once again, we've got a socialist who knows better than God who should live and for how long.
Posted by Matt 2020-03-15 10:45||   2020-03-15 10:45|| Front Page Top

#14 Ever notice how these advocates for age-based solutions are never in the age range.
Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839 2020-03-15 10:53||   2020-03-15 10:53|| Front Page Top

#15 LOL @ #1
Posted by bbrewer126 2020-03-15 11:11||   2020-03-15 11:11|| Front Page Top

#16 An "ethicist" who believes old people should be exterminated?

Such is the ethics of the left. Just extending Abortion, which targets the young and defenseless to include the old and defenseless. (Exempting people like #1's Richard Aubrey of course)
Posted by CrazyFool 2020-03-15 11:39||   2020-03-15 11:39|| Front Page Top

#17 But Sarah Palin was an idiot for pointing out the death panels in Obamacare plans...right?
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-15 12:01||   2020-03-15 12:01|| Front Page Top

#18 When I was about 20, I said I didn't want to live past 60. My friend said, "Wait until you're 59".

I never forgot that.
Posted by Bobby 2020-03-15 12:22||   2020-03-15 12:22|| Front Page Top

#19  "whether our consumption is worth our contribution."

Strictly speaking, mine has not been since I got sick in 2001. But Mr. Wife firmly believes I have nonetheless somehow still enabled him to make the kind of contributions that vicious ass would find valuable for both of us. As Matt said

but that doesn't mean that grandma isn't absolutely essential to the family's well-being. Contributions comes in many shapes and sizes.
Posted by trailing wife 2020-03-15 12:56||   2020-03-15 12:56|| Front Page Top

#20 Strictly speaking
The only way to argue with something like this Ezekiel Emanuel* is to knock it down and stomp on its face.

*Ezekiel Emanuel means Strength-of-the-Lord God-with-us
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-15 13:18||   2020-03-15 13:18|| Front Page Top

#21 tw, I have no doubt that you brighten any room you walk into.

My mother, who grew up during the Depression and didn't finish school so that her brothers could, died at an advanced age. Within a few months, the extended family fell apart. It turned out that old lady was the linchpin of the whole operation, in ways that I can't begin to explain. And, grom, if this guy had stopped by and suggested that my mother had no further right to live, he and I would have had an extended disagreement.
Posted by Matt 2020-03-15 13:29||   2020-03-15 13:29|| Front Page Top

#22 So, does he argue that people who are disabled should be denied medical care? People in wheel chairs (like Steven Hawking), children with Down's Syndrome, someone who had a stroke?
And I hope I am alive to laugh at him when he finally turns 75.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2020-03-15 13:51||   2020-03-15 13:51|| Front Page Top

#23 And they call other people Nazis?
Posted by magpie 2020-03-15 13:59||   2020-03-15 13:59|| Front Page Top

#24 Sounds like someone that needs to be castrated and live out their life in a sensory deprivation tank
Posted by Silentbrick 2020-03-15 14:50||   2020-03-15 14:50|| Front Page Top

#25 Off the pile re p2k's comment on the late erosion of filial piety...

"Go away," snarled a young Potawatomi,
"Or at least get a goddamn lobotomy.
Although you adore me
And more or less bore me,
I'm sorry, my feelz sez, 'You bother me!'"
Posted by Sonny Grumble2716 2020-03-15 17:14||   2020-03-15 17:14|| Front Page Top

#26 So, does he argue that people who are disabled should be denied medical care? People in wheel chairs (like Steven Hawking), children with Down's Syndrome, someone who had a stroke?

Probably. Quite a lot of medical "ethicists" argue things like that. I got antiquated with their work after my wife gave birth to a child with Down syndrome. You see, many academics have a hard time seeing a life as having any kind of "quality" if the person in question can't read books like Simone DeBeauvoir's The Second Sex and talk about it at faculty parties. And this creeps into their attitudes, which ends up in their work.

This is also part of the problem with being an atheist. There are no uncross-able lines, so the unthinkable easily becomes the thinkable.
Posted by Secret Master 2020-03-15 17:16||   2020-03-15 17:16|| Front Page Top

#27 Well, death panels can work both ways, just sayin'.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2020-03-15 19:54||   2020-03-15 19:54|| Front Page Top

#28 As you know I don't like Trump.
But I'm currently watching the "debate" Biden/Sanders.

I pray for the United States. And for us all.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-15 20:42||   2020-03-15 20:42|| Front Page Top

#29 As I recall In England medical care can be denied to the right thinking types. Then in Denmark Americans are sharing information that is not allowed on their local internet. An iron curtain so to speak has enveloped that country.
Posted by Dale 2020-03-15 20:56||   2020-03-15 20:56|| Front Page Top

#30 #28 As you know I don't like Trump.But I'm currently watching the "debate" Biden/Sanders.
I pray for the United States. And for us all.
- European Conservative


Admitted that Trump is a vulgarian. Loud, brash, undisciplined, offensive.

He is however a necessary corrective to 30+ years of sleepwalking - disastrous sleepwalking, as it turns out - by dim witted and arrogant western elites who, drunk on their good fortune in watching the USSR miraculously self-diesteuct with nary a shot in anger, squandered our good fortune through stupid policies based on a facile misreading of human nature and of historical processes.

If you don't like Teump, then blame the elites.
Blame Obama and Merkel.
Blame Goldman Sachs and the New York Times and the Kennedy School and Henry Kissinger.
Blame McCain, and Romney, and the Bushes and the Clintons and Kerry and George Tenet and Tommy Frank and the D.C. national security establishment.

It was these individuals' and these institutions' March of Folly, as Barbara Tuchman put it, that led this country into disaster after disaster after disaster.

Disasteous immigration policies. Who thought it was a good idea to flood the low-end labor market with tens of millions - TENS of MILLIONS - of semi-literate shit-wage imported helots?

Disastrous land wars in Asia. (Did we learn nothing from Alexander's experience, from that of the British, or if the Russians? Nothing?)

And worst of all, the utterly foolish embrace and assisted rise, from third-world hellhole to superpower and global rival, of a corrupt and dishonest and nasty and implacably hostile power in China.

Unbelievable incompetence. Criminal stupidity.

And no one -- NO ONE -- in our establishment was willing to call bullshit on this trifecta of stupidity, this unanswered succession of own goals, the ball flying into our own net, again and again. And again.

Until this supposedly crazy man, the reality-show star and Barnum buffoon, stepped forth a bd asked three inconvenient questions:
Why the f--- did we import another underclass?
Why the f--- are we still pushing on a string, nearly TWO DECADES LATER, fighting inconclusive land wars in Asia?
Why the f--- did we destroy our manufacturing base and our middle class and build up COMMUNIST CHINA, of all places?

You see the Orange Buffoon.
The rest of us see the little boy in the Hand CHRISTIAN Andersen story who said, "But the Emperor isn't wearing any clothes!"

The Emperor's ugly pimply arse has been exposed for all to see.

There's no going back to the idiotic Global Grifter hegemony, EC. Those days are gone.

Trump will have four more years. And then the real messiah will arrive--- remember, Trump is merely the wild man crying in the desert in his animal skins, screaming Repent!

Trump is the symptom of an era of colossal stupidity. An era that has already ended.

Be grateful.




Posted by Lex 2020-03-15 22:50||   2020-03-15 22:50|| Front Page Top

#31 Lex, I agree with many of your points. I just feel that Trump shouldn't have been the answer to these points.

I still remember Reagan's Challenger speech.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-15 23:02||   2020-03-15 23:02|| Front Page Top

#32 You said Brexit couldn't happen. Impossible! Defies reason, the laws of, well, the laws of uh law and un reason.

And Brexit happened.

Trump haters said we couldn't get Mexico to stop its cynical and wicked exportation of humans -- as a greedy and vile means of ridding itself of discontented, oppressed campesinos and grabbing foreign currency repatriations amounting to ~1% of that country's entire GDP.

And yet Mexico complied with our demands, and cracked down on the millions rushing its and our borders.

Trump haters howled when OrangeMan wielded the tariff cudgel against that shitty and hostile rival, China. Horrors! What about global trade, what about our supply chains, what about shitty stupid shiny cheap electronic junk made in China under the unemployed/laid-off US factory worker's family Christmas tree??

And Trump hit China, and China capitulated, and the economy did not rank -- soared, in fact.

And now, finally, thanks to China's typically shitty and nasty and brutally incompetent handling of yet another Chinese low-grade infection, the rest of the world recognizes at long last the terminal idiocy of making this shorty and rapacious country the new Workshop of the World.

And we will end our dependence on China.
It's over. Auf wiedersehen. Пока, парень. Bye bye.

Rejoice.

Life will be vastly better for our children, and their children, than it was for the vast majority of those Americans born in the last 50 or so years.
Posted by Lex 2020-03-15 23:07||   2020-03-15 23:07|| Front Page Top

#33 I still remember Reagan's Challenger speech.

So do I.
We have heard the chimes at midnight.
But those days have passed.

Trump = John the Baptist.

That one too was loud and obnoxious, and he stunk. But necessary, as per the Scriptures.
Posted by Lex 2020-03-15 23:11||   2020-03-15 23:11|| Front Page Top

#34 It didn't end well with John the Baptist. Just sayin'
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-15 23:12||   2020-03-15 23:12|| Front Page Top

#35 O ye of little faith.

For he hath cried in the wilderness, "Prepare the way of the LORD; Make His paths straight."

And yes, it ended well for all of us.
Posted by Lex 2020-03-15 23:18||   2020-03-15 23:18|| Front Page Top

#36 But he lost his head...
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-15 23:21||   2020-03-15 23:21|| Front Page Top

#37 Don't go all Kathy Griffin on us now...
Posted by Lex 2020-03-15 23:26||   2020-03-15 23:26|| Front Page Top

#38 Kathy Griffin... no Salomé, she.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-15 23:31||   2020-03-15 23:31|| Front Page Top

#39 Well hell, if he lives to 75 then he should immediately put a gun in his mouth and pull the trigger.

Otherwise he is a extreme hypocrite and the public should hang him as and example.

Right?

Or is he just fill of self righteous shit?
Posted by DarthVader 2020-03-15 23:45||   2020-03-15 23:45|| Front Page Top

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