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2019-11-17 The Grand Turk
Erdogan: "Our God commands us to be violent to the kuffar"
[IsraelNationalNews] On October 25, a leader of a NATO member nation openly incited violence against non-Muslims.

On that day, Turkey’s president Recep Tayyip Erdogan attended the Friday prayers at the Great Camlica Mosque in Istanbul. He was accompanied by Istanbul’s governor Ali Yerlikaya, mayor Ekrem Imamoglu, Istanbul’s chief of police Mustafa Caliskan and the head of the Istanbul branch of the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP), Bayram Senocak.

After the prayers, the hafiz of the mosque recited the Koranic Verse Al-Fath, which means "victory, triumph, conquest" in English. Then Erdogan took the microphone, reciting a part of the verse in Arabic and then in Turkish. He told the congregants:

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"Our God commands us to be violent towards the kuffar (infidels). Who are we? The ummah [nation] of Mohammed. So [God] also commands us to be merciful to each other. So we will be merciful to each other. And we will be violent to the kuffar. Like in Syria."

Erdogan then referred to another Koranic verse, As-Saff-13, in Arabic:

"Inshallah, God has promised us in Syria: 'Nasrun minallahi ve fethun karib ve bessiril mu'minin.' [’Victory from Allah and an imminent conquest; and give good tidings to the believers’]. We see it is happening right now. With the permission of Allah, we will see it even more... I will meet some presidents of foreign countries at the Dolmabahce Palace today. I ask for your permission now to go there."

The congregants then cheered Erdogan on, shouting "Allahu Akbar" (Allah is the greatest).

That the country’s political opposition has raised no serious objection to these statements is alarming for several reasons.

Dr. Bill Warner, the president of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI), explains the concept of "kafir" in Islam:

"Islam divides the world into Muslims and unbelievers, kafirs. Political Islam always has two different ways to treat kafirs‐dualistic ethics. Kafirs can be abused in the worst ways or they can be treated like a good neighbor. Kafirs must submit to Islam in all politics and public life. Every aspect of kafir civilization must submit to political Islam.

"Political Islam is the doctrine that relates to the unbeliever, the kafir....The Trilogy [The Koran, Sira (Mohammed’s biography) and Hadith (the traditions of Mohammed)] not only advocates a religious superiority over the kafir‐the kafirs go to Hell whereas Muslims go to Paradise‐but also its doctrine demands that Muslims dominate the kafir in all politics and culture. This domination is political, not religious."

Dr. Warner goes on to give examples of how Islamic scriptures refer to the "kafir":

"The language of Islam is dualistic. As an example, there is never any reference to humanity as a unified whole. Instead there is a division into believer and kafir (unbeliever). Humanity is not seen as one body, but is divided into whether the person believes Mohammed is the prophet of Allah or not.

"The Koran defines the kafir and says that the kafir is hated (40:35), mocked (83:34), punished (25:77), beheaded (47:4), confused (6:25), plotted against (86:15), terrorized (8:12), annihilated (6:45), killed (4:91), crucified (5:33), made war on (9:29), ignorant (6:111), evil (23:97), disgraced (37:18), cursed (33:60), stolen from (Bukhari 5,59,537), raped (Ishaq 759) and a Muslim is not the friend of a kafir (3:28).

"Christians and Jews are infidels, but infidels are kafirs, too. Polytheists are Hindus, but they are also kafirs. The terms infidel and polytheist are religious words. Only the word "kafir" shows the common political treatment of Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, animist, atheist and humanist.

"The word kafir should be used instead of ’unbeliever’, the standard word. Unbeliever is a neutral term. The Koran defines the kafir and kafir is not a neutral word. A kafir is not merely someone who does not agree with Islam, but a kafir is evil, disgusting, the lowest form of life. Kafirs can be tortured, killed, lied to and cheated. So the usual word ’unbeliever’ does not reflect the political reality of Islam."

It appears that one major reason behind the continued, severe persecution against and ‐ in many cases ‐ the complete destruction of non-Muslim lives and civilizations in what is today called "the Muslim world" is this intense hatred for and dehumanization of the kafir.

Dr. Andrew Bostom, the author of "The Legacy Of Jihad: Islamic Holy War And The Fate Of Non-Muslims", has analyzed Erdogan’s words in detail according to Islamic sources, and noted:

"Authoritative Koranic commentaries‐classical and modern‐as well as canonical hadith, traditions of Islam’s prophet Muhammad, support Erdogan’s hateful and predatory views toward non-Muslims.

"Thus, not only do Erdogan’s Koranic invocations sanctioning harshness towards non-Muslims and their jihad conquest, comport with their authoritative glosses, the Turkish President himself is revered by the mainstream. Global Muslim Umma."

The fact that these words were uttered by the president of a nation that is an ostensible NATO ally and a candidate for the European Union membership is a major warning to all non-Muslim nations as well as to Muslims who disagree with Erdogan’s worldview.
More dangerous, IMO, than Communists or Nazis
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-11-17 04:50|| || Front Page|| [21 views ]  Top

#1 But he's only saying that to the hometown crowd. He doesn't really mean it.

/sarc
Posted by M. Murcek 2019-11-17 05:44||   2019-11-17 05:44|| Front Page Top

#2 Okay then, kuffar should return the favor ten fold.

You want violence, we'll give you violence.
Posted by AlanC 2019-11-17 07:33||   2019-11-17 07:33|| Front Page Top

#3 Constantinople!!! Constantinople!!!
Posted by Uleck Spererong9442 2019-11-17 08:21||   2019-11-17 08:21|| Front Page Top

#4 Tell me why, again, we are hostile to Russia and allied with Turkey?

Does this make any f---ing sense?
Posted by Lex  2019-11-17 09:09||   2019-11-17 09:09|| Front Page Top

#5 Re:#4 Lesee : Murderous gangster/murderous muslim

Sorry, Lex. Not a clear winner here.
Posted by Mercutio 2019-11-17 09:45||   2019-11-17 09:45|| Front Page Top

#6 Ok, fair enough, Mercutio. But could we at least restore some sense of balance, proportion, judgment to the mix?

Does anyone know how to play this game?
Posted by Lex  2019-11-17 09:48||   2019-11-17 09:48|| Front Page Top

#7 If only the kuffar understood this.

But the smart set and suburban wine moms are too busy losing their shit over mean tweets.
Posted by charger 2019-11-17 10:13||   2019-11-17 10:13|| Front Page Top

#8 Murderous gangster/murderous muslim

Not a question of sides so much, but of who we have common interests with. Rather like enlisting the help of the Mafia in WWII.
Posted by SteveS 2019-11-17 10:23||   2019-11-17 10:23|| Front Page Top

#9 I would rather side with Putin anyday. Can't trust a muslim as far as you can throw them.
Posted by chris 2019-11-17 10:41||   2019-11-17 10:41|| Front Page Top

#10 "Our god commands us to be violent to the kuffar."

Really ? My God has to stop me from doing it to you.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-17 10:52||   2019-11-17 10:52|| Front Page Top

#11 Religion of grab a Piece
Posted by Lex  2019-11-17 10:59||   2019-11-17 10:59|| Front Page Top

#12 My religion demands all muslims be castrated, flayed alive and then roasted on spits to be fed to pigs. Sounds fun doesn't it.
Posted by Silentbrick 2019-11-17 11:13||   2019-11-17 11:13|| Front Page Top

#13 suburban wine moms are too busy losing their shit over mean tweets.

But the other suburban moms are sending the Trump campaign lots of big checks. I guess they’re as tired of their friends whining as we are. From the Washington Examiner:

Despite a crush of stories that suggest he is losing suburbs largely due to women deserting him, President Trump is seeing a surge in donations from women and is tops in receiving big checks from suburban women.

He has the most big-dollar suburban women donors, 10,534, and has received the most from them, $8,293,135, than any of the Democrats, according to a study from OpenSecrets.org, part of the Center for Responsive Politics.

Overall, he ranks fifth in donations from women at $15.1 million. The leader is Sen. Bernie Sanders at $17.1 million, according to the group.

Statistically, 28% of Trump's "itemized contributions" from women in 2016. For the 2020 election, they are 35%.

But it could be higher, and likely is, said OpenSecrets. That is because it is easier to get information on small donors who give $200 or less from Democrats than the Trump campaign.

Explained the donor analysis, “Campaigns are not required to itemize donations of $200 or less, so we do not have demographic information about Trump's small donors giving to his joint fundraising committees with the Republican National Committee, Trump Victory and the Trump Make America Great Again Committee. An estimated 59% of Trump’s donations are from small-donors, so Trump’s contributions from women are most certainly higher than $15 million. Trump’s totals are underestimated more than the other candidates. Because Democrats are relying on ActBlue and the Republicans are not relying on the Republican equivalent WinRed as significantly, we only have most (not all) donor demographic data for Democratic small-dollar donors.”

While women donors are more pro-Democrat, according to the report, they are not a “monolith” and are clearly open to backing Trump.

In fact, the report ends with a description of the Women for Trump effort in several states that has drawn in donations.

“Trump is heavily relying on white women, especially independents and those who live in the suburbs, to bring him to victory in 2020 as they did in 2016. Although there is declining support for Trump from women shown in some polls, Trump campaign aides and officials argue the polling data does not account for suburban women who favor Trump but do not feel comfortable publicly saying so,” said the report.

Posted by trailing wife 2019-11-17 13:39||   2019-11-17 13:39|| Front Page Top

#14 kafir as used by Erdogan sometimes seems to mean the followers of assad in Syria and the followers of Khomeini in Iran

other times Erdogan regards these groups as muslims

depending on what he believes that day or maybe what he had for breakfast
Posted by lord garth 2019-11-17 15:50||   2019-11-17 15:50|| Front Page Top

#15 fucking imbicile fascist.

The Arc Of Turkey's Descent Into Islamic, Third-World Madness http://minx.cc/?post=384353
Posted by newc 2019-11-17 15:54||   2019-11-17 15:54|| Front Page Top

#16 whoops - link
http://minx.cc:1080/?post=384353
Posted by newc 2019-11-17 15:56||   2019-11-17 15:56|| Front Page Top

#17 Good link, newc. Thanks.
Posted by trailing wife 2019-11-17 19:36||   2019-11-17 19:36|| Front Page Top

#18 kafir as used by Erdogan sometimes seems to mean the followers of Assad in Syria and the followers of Khomeini in Iran

I thought that was it. So many non-Sunni religious and ethnic minorities kafir to kill in Syria: Alawite, Twelvers, Ismailis, Druze, Christians, Armenians, Kurds... it'll be like the good old days for NATO allies the Turkish military.
Posted by Secret Master 2019-11-17 22:29||   2019-11-17 22:29|| Front Page Top

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