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2019-10-04 India-Pakistan

Researchers warn India-Pakistan nuclear war could kill 100 million

[DAWN] The year is 2025 and ~~bandidos~~ Death Eaters have attacked India's parliament, killing most of its leaders. New Delhi retaliates by sending tanks into Azad Jammu and Kashmir
Kashmir

...a disputed territory lying between India and Pakistain. After partition, the Paks grabbed half of it and call it Azad (Free) Kashmir. The remainder they refer to as "Indian Occupied Kashmir". They have fought four wars with India over it, the score currently 4-0 in New Delhi's favor. After 72 years of this nonsense, India cut the Gordian knot in 2019, removing the area's special status, breaking off Ladakh as a separate state, and allowing people from other areas to settle (or in the case of the Pandits, to resettle) there....
(AJK).

Fearing it will be overrun, Islamabad hits the invading forces with its battlefield nuclear weapons, triggering the deadliest conflict in history ‐ and catastrophic global cooling, with temperatures not seen since the last Ice Age.

This scenario was modelled by researchers in a new paper published on Wednesday, which envisaged more than 100 million immediate deaths, followed by global mass starvation after megatons of thick black soot block out sunlight for up to a decade.

It comes at a time of renewed tensions between the two South Asian rivals, which have fought several wars over the Kashmir Valley and are rapidly building up their atomic arsenals.

They currently each have about 150 nuclear warheads at their disposal, with the number expected to climb to more than 200 by 2025.

"Unfortunately it's timely because India and Pakistain remain in conflict over Kashmir, and every month or so you can read about people dying along the border," Alan Robock, a professor in environmental sciences at Rutgers University, who co-authored the paper in Science Advances, told AFP.

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#1 Isn’t that about 5-percent of their populations combined?

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2019-10-04 07:55|| 2019-10-04 07:55|| Front Page Top

#2 followed by global mass starvation after megatons of thick black soot block out sunlight for up to a decade.

that'll fix global warming

Posted by Skidmark 2019-10-04 09:38|| 2019-10-04 09:38|| Front Page Top

#3 Pakistan's latest estimated population is 212,742,631(2017)

India's latest estimated population 1,324,171,354(2017)

Posted by Skidmark 2019-10-04 09:51|| 2019-10-04 09:51|| Front Page Top

#4 Sadly blast plumes rise and are spread by high altitude winds. This is prob the best(?) location though as the winds will be channeled by the Himalayas and hopefully cooled, dropping the debris onto the eastern China deserts before it is forced into the northern jet stream.

Posted by Skidmark 2019-10-04 09:57|| 2019-10-04 09:57|| Front Page Top

#5 triggering the deadliest conflict in history ‐ and catastrophic global cooling, with temperatures not seen since the last Ice Age.

We're told by our betters that global warming and overpopulation are existential threats to humanity, so this seems like a rather positive outcome. There is a bright side to everything!

Posted by SteveS 2019-10-04 11:15|| 2019-10-04 11:15|| Front Page Top

#6 Any such war would be fought in POK this time. So if battlefield nukes is all they'll use - it should mean Gilgit Baltistan would be affected most. And the first detection of beta 1 radiation in the conflict shall end the world's long suffering of the 'Stain really. If the TNWs are used in the summer, the winds will carry the rads to China for sure. Besides, China cannot allow an islamic nuke to royally destroy the OBOR pipe dream, now can it ?

The researchers know probably jack and shit about an integrated battle doctrine and the exigencies the Pakistain leaderships have to negotiate to stay in power. Imran Khan couldn't care less about Kashmir or a war. All he wants is to keep the crazies away from himself. I imagine he has to plead with his ISI honchos to keep a lid on their mullah dealings until the next world bank aid is approved. For that he'll say anything and even threaten armageddon at the UN against India. He knows and they all know KAshmir's a moot point by now.

Unsurprisingly, the study concludes with : "There's very little in the history of Indo-Pakistan kinetic conflict to suggest that leadership on either side would continue escalating until they annihilated the other." "But I needed the attention, my tenure almost up, see ?"

Posted by Dron66046 2019-10-04 12:31|| 2019-10-04 12:31|| Front Page Top

#7 Glad you're back Dron66.
I understand that suitcase nukes are all the rage, but for inner city suitcases I expect, not as TNW.

Posted by Skidmark 2019-10-04 13:36|| 2019-10-04 13:36|| Front Page Top

#8 A 'suitcase nuke' worth investing the millions that would go into it up to delivery and detonation, would be the size of a small fridge at best. India could just as easily have muslim mercs assemble one right within Pakistain, but not the other way round.

They have more TNWs than longer range strategic missiles. Their Nasr The chinese WS-2 repainted a dung green really. is also a battlefield nuke. The longer range stuff has never been tested for the Indian threat matrix collated for them over the years by foreign militaries. When a Paki officer pees, someone shows him how to unzip first. I doubt the design and delivery of a suitcase nuke is something anyone would help them with, or NY or at least Bombay would have been bigger hits.

Posted by Dron66046 2019-10-04 14:24|| 2019-10-04 14:24|| Front Page Top

#9 I see someone dusted off Carl Sagan's penultimate hoax, nuclear winter. Remember how well he predicted the eternal autumn from the inextinguishable oil well fired sparked by Saddam?

Oh, yeah, US teams put out the fires in a couple of weeks, and there wasn't even any short-term effects from the plumes, let alone long-term.

ISTR later models determine "nuclear winter" wouldn't be a thing, either. For all the energy of the U.S. and USSR arsenals, it wasn't enough to launch enough dust or soot to compare to, say, Krakatoa.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2019-10-04 20:18|| 2019-10-04 20:18|| Front Page Top

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