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2019-03-21 -Short Attention Span Theater-

Ethiopia crash captain did not train on airline's 737 MAX 8 simulator

ADDIS ABABA (Reuters) - The captain of a doomed Ethiopian Airlines flight did not get a chance to practice on his airline’s new simulator for the Boeing 737 MAX 8 before he died in a crash with 157 others, a pilot colleague said.

Captain Yared Getachew, 29, was due for refresher training at the end of March, his colleague told Reuters, two months after Ethiopian Airlines had received one of the first such simulators being distributed.

The March 10 disaster, following another MAX 8 crash in Indonesia in October, has set off one of the biggest inquiries in aviation history, focused on the safety of a new automated system and whether crews understood it properly.

Posted by Besoeker 2019-03-21 09:30|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top

#1 Two buttons and they would have shut the suspect system down. Not sure about Ethiopia, but where I come from emergency procedures are memorized, backed up by the check list and manual. The hunt is on to blame Boeing, but is it clear with the tens of thousands of hours the 737 Max has flown, this is not a systems problem, pilot error.

Posted by 49 Pan 2019-03-21 11:17|| 2019-03-21 11:17|| Front Page Top

#2 Looks like a systems problem to me!

The pilot didn't steer it into the ground, the FCS did.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2019-03-21 12:14|| 2019-03-21 12:14|| Front Page Top

#3 IIRC, there was a letter circulating a few years back about the training of Asian pilots. American trainers wanted to train on emergency procedures, but the pilots just wanted to know how to fly. Trainers who insisted were terminated. Remember the San Fran crash where the plane landed short on a clear day? Wikipedia

Posted by Bobby 2019-03-21 12:55|| 2019-03-21 12:55|| Front Page Top

#4 #2 The pilot failed to fly the airplane. The procedure when this issue occurs is to shut off the auto-pilot and re-trim the elevator. It takes less than 10 seconds. IF, you know what you are doing. It was pilot error due to lack of training.

Posted by Bigfoot Elmerenter4120 2019-03-21 13:15|| 2019-03-21 13:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Re: 49 Pan: The Max is a family of aircraft, not just one; it is the Max 8 that is involved.
And while the fine print may say to do something different it is just plain stupid to change operating procedures on a family of aircraft in such widespread service.
Anybody remember the 60's era Pontia automatic transmission? reverse was at the far end of the selector display, not the familiar PRNDL of nowadays. So if you wanted to start out on Low on your Bonneville you did NOT pull the shift lever all the way down ( at least not more than once) don't ask me how I know.....

I suspect the root casue of these accidents will not have just one smoking gun; Boeing, FAA, and the airlines will all get to eat a bite of that sh!t sandwich.

Posted by USN, Ret. 2019-03-21 14:54|| 2019-03-21 14:54|| Front Page Top

#6 I suspect the root casue of these accidents will not have just one smoking gun; Boeing, FAA, and the airlines will all get to eat a bite of that sh!t sandwich. Posted by USN, Ret.

Good call on that one.

Posted by Besoeker 2019-03-21 16:11|| 2019-03-21 16:11|| Front Page Top

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