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2019-02-22 Home Front: WoT
Trump bars US-born woman who joined IS from returning
[IsraelTimes] Pompeo says 24-year-old Hoda Muthana is not an American citizen, though she was born in the country and apparently traveled to Syria on a US passport.

US President Donald Trump
...New York real estate developer, described by Dems as illiterate, racist, misogynistic, and what ever other unpleasant descriptions they can think of, elected by the rest of us as 45th President of the United States...
said Wednesday he is barring a US-born former Islamic State

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...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear the pols talk they're not really Moslems....
propagandist from returning home, making the highly unusual case that she is not a US citizen.

Trump’s refusal to admit 24-year-old Hoda Muthana will likely face legal challenges, with US citizenship extremely difficult to lose.

Trump said on Twitter he has "instructed" Secretary of State Mike Pompeo "not to allow Hoda Muthana back into the country" ‐ a break with usual US protocol not to comment on individuals’ immigration issues.

"Ms. Hoda Muthana is not a US citizen and will not be admitted into the United States," Pompeo said in a terse statement.

"She does not have any legal basis, no valid US passport, no right to a passport, nor any visa to travel to the United States," he added.

The US generally grants citizenship to everyone born on its soil and the Alabama-raised Muthana is believed to have traveled to Syria on a US passport.

But a US official said a later investigation showed that she had not been entitled to her passport, adding: "Ms. Muthana’s citizenship has not been revoked because she was never a citizen."

Officials declined further comment but in a loophole that could boost the government case, Muthana’s father had been a diplomat from Yemen
...an area of the Arabian Peninsula sometimes mistaken for a country. It is populated by more antagonistic tribes and factions than you can keep track of. Except for a tiny handfull of Jews everthing there is very Islamic...
‐ and children of diplomats are not automatically given citizenship.

Muthana’s lawyer, Hassan Shilby, showed a birth certificate that demonstrated she was born in New Jersey in 1994 and said her father had ceased being a diplomat "months and months" before her birth.

"She is a US citizen. She had a valid passport. She may have broken the law and, if she has, she’s willing to pay the price," Shilby told AFP at his office in Tampa. He said Muthana wanted due process and was willing to go to prison if convicted.

"We cannot get to a point where we simply strip citizenship from those who break the law. That’s not what America is about. We have one of the greatest legal systems in the world, and we have to abide by it."

US-BORN AND RADICALIZED
Comparatively few Americans have embraced radical Islam, with the Counter Extremism Project at George Washington University identifying 64 who went to join the Islamic State group in Syria or Iraq.

Muthana, raised in a strict household in Hoover, Alabama, said she was brainwashed by social media messages and headed to Syria without her parents’ knowledge in 2014. Shortly afterward, Muthana posted on Twitter a picture of herself and three other women who appeared to torch their Western passports, including an American one. She went on to post vivid calls on social media to kill Americans, glorifying the ruthless Death Eater group notorious for its beheadings that for a time ruled vast swathes of Syria and Iraq.

But with the Islamic State group down to its last stretch of land, Muthana said she has renounced extremism and wants to return home with her toddler son, born to one of her three jihadist husbands.

"To say that I regret my past words, any pain that I caused my family and any concerns I would cause my country would be hard for me to really express properly," she said in a handwritten note to her lawyer.

TOUGH TO LOSE US CITIZENSHIP
The US decision on Muthana comes amid rising debate in Europe
...also known as Moslem Lebensraum...
on the nationality of Death Eaters. Britannia recently revoked the citizenship of Shamina Begum, who similarly traveled to Syria and wants to return to her country of birth. Britannia asserted that she was entitled to Bangladeshi citizenship due to her heritage, but the Dhaka government on Wednesday denied that she was eligible, leading her to become effectively stateless.

US citizenship is significantly more difficult to lose. The 14th Amendment to the US Constitution, ratified in 1868 after the Civil War as slavery was abolished, establishes that anyone born in the country is a citizen with full rights.

The US Supreme Court in the landmark 1967 Afroyim decision rejected the government’s attempt to revoke the nationality of a Polish-born naturalized American after he voted in Israel.

And last year a federal judge rejected a bid to strip the nationality of a Pak-born naturalized American who was convicted in a plot to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge.

But Trump has campaigned on a hard line over immigration and raised the prospect of ending birthright citizenship ahead of last year’s congressional elections.

In 2011, President Barack Obama
I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody...
ordered dronezaps that killed two Americans in Yemen ‐ prominent al-Qaeda preacher Anwar al-Awlaki
... Born in Las Cruces, New Mexico, zapped in Yemen, al-Awlaki was a dual citizen of the U.S. and Yemen. He was an Islamic holy man who was a trainer for al-Qaeda and its franchises. His sermons were attended by three of the 9/11 hijackers, by Fort Hood murderer Nidal Malik Hussein, and Undieboomer Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. He was the first U.S. citizen ever placed on a CIA target list...
and his 16-year-old son ‐ but did not believe it was possible to revoke citizenship.
Posted by trailing wife 2019-02-22 01:02|| || Front Page|| [17 views ]  Top
 File under: Islamic State 

#1 Am i wrong or wasn't a condition of joining ISIS was too renounce your citizenship of your home country.
Posted by chris 2019-02-22 07:03||   2019-02-22 07:03|| Front Page Top

#2 Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Nuff said.
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-02-22 07:10||   2019-02-22 07:10|| Front Page Top

#3 She isn't a citizen. She was born here but two diplomat parents. According to US law children born here of diplomats do not get the same citizenship award as someone born of non-diplomats. She doesn't have a US passport so it is suspect how she traveled to a foreign country.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2019-02-22 08:31||   2019-02-22 08:31|| Front Page Top

#4 Actually this exception only applies to children born to diplomats with an active accreditation in the respective country, because these persons are not subject to U.S. law. If a diplomat is no longer accredited and continues to live in the country as a regular person subject to U.S. law, this exception does no longer apply.

So this approach is probably not going to work if her parents were no longer accredited diplomats when she was born. The courts will demand that the U.S. let her in to face due process.
Posted by European Conservative 2019-02-22 10:06||   2019-02-22 10:06|| Front Page Top

#5 If I read it correctly there is a dispute whether her father still was a diplomat when she was born.
Posted by European Conservative 2019-02-22 10:08||   2019-02-22 10:08|| Front Page Top

#6 Had read elsewhere that she had renounced her US citizenship. That would seem to be the end of it as far as I am concerned.
Posted by Iblis 2019-02-22 11:15||   2019-02-22 11:15|| Front Page Top

#7 How many more IS recruits are there to come home to roost in the USA? Surely there is a sparsely inhabited island off Alaska to keep them safe & sound for the rest of their lives.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2019-02-22 12:02||   2019-02-22 12:02|| Front Page Top

#8 Nope. Have fun in the sand.
Posted by Spot 2019-02-22 16:26||   2019-02-22 16:26|| Front Page Top

#9 The mood goddess father may at the time of her birth broke ranks, was no longer a diplomat. So what?

Because that does not go into effect until the State Department agrees that he is no longer a pigshit diplomat.
Posted by Woodrow 2019-02-22 17:37||   2019-02-22 17:37|| Front Page Top

#10 I am sure she can find another spodeydope to marry.
Posted by SR-71 2019-02-22 17:41||   2019-02-22 17:41|| Front Page Top

#11 Am i wrong or wasn't a condition of joining ISIS was too renounce your citizenship of your home country.

Lot of videos of of new to ISJV mandatory Coming Out party, where a class dances the hokey pokey while everyone throws their passport in a bonfire.

It was all very frightening until I couldn't get the Mexican Hat Dance music out of my head.
Posted by swksvolFF 2019-02-22 20:06||   2019-02-22 20:06|| Front Page Top

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