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2017-06-21 -Land of the Free

New study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes

[WashingtonTimes] A research group in New Jersey has taken a fresh look at postelection polling data and concluded that the number of noncitizens voting illegally in U.S. elections is likely far greater than previous estimates.

As many as 5.7 million noncitizens may have voted in the 2008 election, which put Barack Obama in the White House.

The research organization Just Facts, a widely cited, independent think tank led by self-described conservatives and libertarians, revealed its number-crunching in a report on national immigration.

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Posted by Bright Pebbles 2017-06-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 So allowing illegal voters is fine, but allegations of Russian hacking that may have gone against liberals is not. Got it.

Posted by gorb 2017-06-21 00:26|| 2017-06-21 00:26|| Front Page Top

#2 Of course, anything against libs is unfair. They get butthurt easily.

Posted by chris 2017-06-21 03:00|| 2017-06-21 03:00|| Front Page Top

#3 As many as 5.7 million noncitizens may have voted in the 2008 election, which put Barack Obama in the White House.

Can we nullify the 2008 and 2012 election?

Posted by JohnQC 2017-06-21 06:48|| 2017-06-21 06:48|| Front Page Top

#4 A lot of non citizens are legal and they are also ineligible to vote.

Also, felons may cast illegal ballots fairly easily and ballot counters may miss it.

Also, people can pose as a voter fairly easily, especially on mail in voting.

Also people may vote twice in different states or may cast votes for deceased voters still on the voting roles.

In 2008 and 2012, illegally assisted voting (e.g., people in the ballot area instructing voters)was also common. In fact there were actually admissions (or bragging) statements about this.

The problem of measuring the scale. Each one of these illegal vote types requires different methodologies to check and even the best 'after the fact' studies will have enormous error bands (if it is an honest study), except the felon, double state and deceased votes which, if everyone in all states cooperates, can be determined to considerable accuracy.

Posted by lord garth 2017-06-21 09:46|| 2017-06-21 09:46|| Front Page Top

#5 At every level of government, there is this elephant in the room that all avoid when talking about enforcement on illegal voting, entitlement fraud, illegal aliens in the workforce etc. Its so utterly simple it seems impossible to understand. Cross reference everything against an open Social Security database and simply require that number to be used for voting, work, taxes, travel, drivers licenses, etc. Imagine how many tax returns the IRS gets against a single number when illegals use it. Do they contact ICE? Apparently not. I must be missing something here?

Posted by NoMoreBS 2017-06-21 11:05|| 2017-06-21 11:05|| Front Page Top

#6 Jeh Johnson is testifying right now before the House Intel Committee on Russian hacking. He is making a pitch for stronger centralized control in elections. He is not saying anything about purging the rolls, requiring voter ID, getting rid of Motor Voter law, checking voters against illegal alien database, multiple registrations, etc. Infuriating.

Centralized control over voting would do nothing for us but insure centralized voter fraud. It assumes the Dems are honest and don't try to rig the system.

Posted by JohnQC 2017-06-21 11:32|| 2017-06-21 11:32|| Front Page Top

#7 Corruption at the heart of the voting process.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2017-06-21 11:51|| 2017-06-21 11:51|| Front Page Top

#8 It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything. Joseph Stalin
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/josephstal109571.html

Posted by NoMoreBS 2017-06-21 12:41|| 2017-06-21 12:41|| Front Page Top

#9 Jeh Johnson is testifying right now before the House Intel Committee on Russian hacking. He is making a pitch for stronger centralized control in elections

"Central control" and planning, the dream of all despots and tin-pot tyrants. Good to see Jeh is up on his African and Latin American studies.

Posted by Besoeker 2017-06-21 13:44|| 2017-06-21 13:44|| Front Page Top

#10 Pubs should use this to push for election cleanup in all states. Clean up the voter rolls, get rid of mail in ballots, make if a felony to intimate voters with machettes, extend voting hours, etc.

Tell people it is to stop the Russians.

Posted by rjschwarz 2017-06-21 15:39|| 2017-06-21 15:39|| Front Page Top

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