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2016-10-13 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
RAF may, or may not, be allowed to shoot down Rooshins in Syria

Yes They Can

[Yahoo.UK] As relations between the West and Russia steadily deteriorate, Royal Air Force (RAF) pilots have been given the go-ahead to shoot down Russian military jets when flying missions over Syria and Iraq, if they are endangered by them. The development comes with warnings that the UK and Russia are now "one step closer" to being at war.

RAF Tornado pilots have been instructed to avoid contact with Russian aircraft while engaged in missions for Operation Shader – the codename for the RAF's anti-Isis work in Iraq and Syria. But their aircraft have been armed with air-to-air missiles and the pilots have been given the green light to defend themselves if they are threatened by Russian pilots.

"The first thing a British pilot will do is to try to avoid a situation where an air-to-air attack is likely to occur — you avoid an area if there is Russian activity," an unidentified source from the UK's Permanent Joint Headquarters (PJHQ) told the Sunday Times. "But if a pilot is fired on or believes he is about to be fired on, he can defend himself. We now have a situation where a single pilot, irrespective of nationality, can have a strategic impact on future events."

The RAF Tornados aircraft will be armed with heat-seeking Advanced Short Range Air-to-Air Missiles (Asraams, also called AIM-132 missiles). These weapons, which cost £200,000 each, can reach triple the speed of sound and have a longer range than other air-to-air missiles, allowing RAF pilots to shoot down enemy aircraft without being targeted themselves.

The Sunday Times' report quoted a defence source as saying: "Up till now RAF Tornados have been equipped with 500lb satellite-guided bombs — there has been no or little air-to-air threat. But in the last week the situation has changed. We need to respond accordingly."

"We need to protect our pilots but at the same time," said another source. "We're taking a step closer to war. It will only take one plane to be shot down in an air-to-air battle and the whole landscape will change."

No They Can't

[UKDefenceJournal] Several news sources have reported over the weekend that RAF Tornados bombing Islamic State targets in Iraq are to be armed with air-to-air missiles to protect them from attack and that RAF pilots have been cleared to fire on hostile Russian jets. The Sunday Times features a similar story and quotes a military source who is alleged to have said “up until now there has been no or little air-to-air threat, but the situation has changed and we need to respond accordingly”.

An MOD spokesperson said: "There is no truth to this story."

Russia had summoned Britain’s defence attache in Moscow to explain reports that RAF pilots had been authorised to shoot down Russian aircraft in the Middle East, the Foreign Office says.

The Foreign Office said the reports, over the weekend, had been inaccurate.
Posted by Steve White 2016-10-13 00:00|| || Front Page|| [9 views ]  Top

#1 I can't imagine anything in Syria worth going to war with Russia over.
Posted by SteveS 2016-10-13 10:17||   2016-10-13 10:17|| Front Page Top

#2 Arms sales.

I think the original intent was to replace Assad with a MoBro to, along with a MoBro Egypt, put pressure on Israel, have Netenyahu lose the election, and give rise to a Paleo state, Peace in Our Time and Legacy, leftists put a kewpie on the mantel.
Posted by swksvolFF 2016-10-13 15:58||   2016-10-13 15:58|| Front Page Top

#3 At least all of #2, possibly a bit more.

Posted by Besoeker 2016-10-13 17:40||   2016-10-13 17:40|| Front Page Top

#4 And, unexpectedly: Cold War 2015: Russia 'FURIOUS' after RAF pilots cleared to shoot down Moscow warplanes

Posted by Blossom Unains5562 2016-10-13 19:20||   2016-10-13 19:20|| Front Page Top

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