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2014-04-24 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
NYC Risk of Flooding Increased by GW and OTHER Human Factors
The chance of floodwaters overtopping Manhattan's seawalls and inundating parts of the city has skyrocketed at least 20-fold since the mid-1800s thanks to swelling seas and mounting storm surges finds a new study.
Link to the study at the ... link.
They could build a big honking dike across the lower Bay with gates, flood bridges and controls that would stop this. A $10 $20 $50 billion dollar project would stimulate thousands of pay to play opportunities jobs and actually do something worthwhile. But no, it's more important to whine...
"The researchers found that today, waters can be expected to overtop the lower Manhattan seawall -- 1.75 meters (5.74 feet) high -- once every four to five years," explains the study summary from the American Geophysical Union (AGU). "In the 19th century, when both sea levels and storm tides were lower, water was expected to overtop the Manhattan seawall only once every 100 to 400 years, according to the paper."

The reasons for the local sea level rise are well-understood: global warming has caused sea water to expand while melting glaciers and icesheets have deposited more water into the oceans. At the same time, the land surface has been sinking.
At least they didn't say "man-made global warming"; I guess that's understood by WaPo readers. This next part, I found interesting, since the reasons cited may also have global warming connections, too.
Explanations for the increase in the storm tide are more complex. Per the AGU study summary:


About half of long-term change could be attributed to decades-long variations in the North Atlantic Oscillation, an irregular fluctuation of atmospheric pressure over the North Atlantic Ocean that has a strong effect on winter weather in Europe, Greenland, northeastern North America, North Africa, and northern Asia.
A natural fluctuation? Do tell!
Longer-term trends could also be influencing the increase in storm tides over the past two centuries, according to the paper. The authors speculate that climate change and increasing global temperatures could be contributing to the increase in storm tides. There could also be local factors, like deepening of shipping channels around New York harbor, that could have affected storm tides in the area over the past 170 years, Talke said.
Local factors, like maybe - the development of all the New Jersey 'meadowlands' (wetlands/swamps)and half of lower Manhattan?
Posted by Bobby 2014-04-24 11:43|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ]  Top

#1 Ok. So when can I expect the flood?
Posted by DarthVader 2014-04-24 11:55||   2014-04-24 11:55|| Front Page Top

#2 The warmers are getting desperate as the hoax is discovered by more and more people.
Posted by El Jefe 2014-04-24 12:00||   2014-04-24 12:00|| Front Page Top

#3 hope everyone doesn't run to one end and the whole island tips over
Posted by Frank G 2014-04-24 12:04||   2014-04-24 12:04|| Front Page Top

#4 So a giant metropolis built on a fancy pile of river mud is sinking, and at the same time purpose built deeper ocean leads right up to it with no effective wave breaks, that's all being held off by a six foot wall?

If the concern is real, then next time NYC elects a tyrant you will get the Venice or Netherland treatment rather than criminalizing soda pop.
Posted by swksvolFF 2014-04-24 12:08||   2014-04-24 12:08|| Front Page Top

#5 And just 12,000 or so years ago it was covered in ice. Time does fly.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2014-04-24 12:21||   2014-04-24 12:21|| Front Page Top

#6 replace the horse-drawn carriages with dolphins
Posted by Frank G 2014-04-24 12:27||   2014-04-24 12:27|| Front Page Top

#7 Didn't Billy Joel do a song about sinking Manhattan out at sea?
Posted by Pappy 2014-04-24 14:52||   2014-04-24 14:52|| Front Page Top

#8 Sell the Chinese as much coal as they can ever choke on. Its a feature, not a bug.
Posted by P2Kontheroad 2014-04-24 15:12||   2014-04-24 15:12|| Front Page Top

#9 I guess the New York City Italians already have the monoply on gondolas.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2014-04-24 15:46||   2014-04-24 15:46|| Front Page Top

#10 I guess that makes the East Village Sewer Rat an endangered species.
Posted by swksvolFF 2014-04-24 17:40||   2014-04-24 17:40|| Front Page Top

#11 Nah, swksvolFF, they all moved to Gracie Mansion.
Posted by AlanC 2014-04-24 19:59||   2014-04-24 19:59|| Front Page Top

#12 Most of Manhattan is underlain not by built-up mud flats, but by ancient metamorphic rock. A 10' tidal surge would get your shoes wet a block in from the rivers. Bellevue & the UN would have water swirling in the lobbies - which would run back out and make the fish miserable.
Posted by Glenmore 2014-04-24 21:36||   2014-04-24 21:36|| Front Page Top

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