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2013-09-19 -Lurid Crime Tales-
Navy Yard: Swat Team 'Stood Down' At Mass Shooting Scene
[BBC] One of the first teams of heavily armed police to respond to Monday's shooting in Washington DC was ordered to stand down by superiors, the BBC can reveal.

A tactical response team of the Capitol Police, a force that guards the US Capitol complex, was told to leave the scene by a supervisor instead of aiding municipal officers. The Capitol Police department has launched a review into the matter.

Aaron Alexis, 34, killed 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard.

"I don't think it's a far stretch to say that some lives may have been saved if we were allowed to intervene," a Capitol Police source familiar with the incident told the BBC.

A former Navy reservist, Alexis was working as a technical contractor for the Navy and had a valid pass and security clearance allowing him entry to the highly secure building in south-east Washington DC. About 8:15 local time (12:15 GMT), Alexis entered Building 197, headquarters for Naval Sea Systems Command, which builds and maintains ships and submarines for the Navy, and opened fire. Armed with a shotgun and a pistol he took from a guard he had shot, he sprayed bullets down a hallway and fired from a balcony down on to workers in an atrium. He fired on coppers who eventually stormed the building, and was later killed in the shootout.

Multiple sources in the Capitol Police department have told the BBC that its highly trained and heavily armed four-man Containment and Emergency Response Team (Cert) was near the Navy Yard when the initial report of an active shooter came in about 8:20 local time. The officers, wearing full tactical gear and armed with HK-416 assault weapons, arrived outside Building 197 a few minutes later, an official with knowledge of the incident told the BBC.

According to a Capitol Police source, an officer with the Metropolitan Police Department (MPD), Washington DC's main municipal force, told the Capitol Cert officers they were the only police on the site equipped with long guns and requested their help stopping the gunman. When the Capitol Police team radioed their superiors, they were told by a watch commander to leave the scene, the BBC was told.

Alexis was reported killed after 09:00.

Several Capitol Police sources who spoke to the BBC asked to remain anonymous for fear of reprisal.

Capitol Police Officer Jim Konczos, who leads the officers' union, said the Cert police train for what are known as active shooter situations and are expert marksmen.

"Odds are it might have had a different outcome," he said of Monday's shooting and the decision to order the Cert unit to stand down. "It probably could have been neutralised."

Capitol Hill Police chief Kim Dine has ordered "a comprehensive, independent review of the facts surrounding the Capitol Police's response to the Navy Yard shootings".

The Capitol Police Board responded by establishing what it called a "Fact Review Team", led by Michael Stenger, a former assistant director of the US Secret Service. Earlier, Capitol Police spokeswoman Lt Kimberly Schneider said its officers had "offered and provided mutual support and assistance at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday".

Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Terry Gainer, who oversees the Capitol Police department, confirmed officials were pulling radio logs from Monday's incident and interviewing the officers involved.

"It's a very serious allegation and inference to indicate that we were on scene and could have helped and were told to leave," he said. "It crushes me if that's the case."

Mr Gainer said that while the department's primary responsibility was to protect the Capitol complex, which houses the US Congress, that mission did not allow it to turn a "blind eye" when asked for help.

Gwendolyn Crump, a spokeswoman for the Metropolitan Police Department, which protects the city of Washington DC, said allegations that a Capitol Police Cert team was on scene and later stood down were "not true".

A Capitol Police officer who heard the Cert request over the radio to engage the gunman reported colleagues within the department felt frustrated they were told to stand down. The officer described a culture in which emergency responders are instructed to not extend themselves beyond the Capitol grounds for fear of discipline.

"They were relying on our command staff to make the right call," another Capitol Police officer said. "Unfortunately, I don't think that happened in this case."
Posted by trailing wife 2013-09-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [10 views ]  Top

#1 Mmmmkay...in my ideal world, some actual, y' know, investigative journalists would dig up the source of the stannd-down order. Along with, I dunno, a little delving into the background, governmental connections and political associations of the gunman's shrink(s). And why not a look at the shrinks who treated the shooters from Aurora and Newtown, too...these "random" events and the immediate political/media anti-2nd Amendment feeding frenzies that follow them seem just a little too damn convenient.
Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2013-09-19 01:16||   2013-09-19 01:16|| Front Page Top

#2 The Capitol Police Board responded by establishing what it called a "Fact Review Team", led by Michael Stenger, a former assistant director of the US Secret Service.

"Fact Review Team".....? Is that anything like an "Accountability Review Board" ?
Posted by Besoeker 2013-09-19 03:16||   2013-09-19 03:16|| Front Page Top

#3 "Fact Review Team".....? Is that anything like an "Accountability Review Board" ?

What is not seen---or, at least, covered in a huge mound of irrelevant detail---doesn't exists.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-09-19 03:27||   2013-09-19 03:27|| Front Page Top

#4 But g(r)om.... what difference does it make ?

Forget those 3000 peons in 197, you have royalty to protect! Now get your as*es back over here.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-09-19 03:32||   2013-09-19 03:32|| Front Page Top

#5 And why not a look at the shrinks who treated the shooters from Aurora and Newtown, too...these "random" events and the immediate political/media anti-2nd Amendment feeding frenzies that follow them seem just a little too damn convenient.

This thought has crossed my mind.
Posted by Omaimp Speans2464 2013-09-19 08:45||   2013-09-19 08:45|| Front Page Top

#6 Tinfoil time?
Posted by Iblis 2013-09-19 10:34||   2013-09-19 10:34|| Front Page Top

#7 No tinfoil hat needed. Solid evidence-based medical practice pretty much requires a look at the mental health system with which these shooters had contact.

I wonder if there is a common component (or components) of psychiatric treatment that these particular psychs used - like a particular technique, modality or philosophy of treatment. It would be interesting to compare those for commonalities, and see if possibly systemic or technical issues caused a gap in treatment that the shooters managed to wiggle through. Engineers would be looking at catastrophic failures for commonalities, its how we improve bridges, boats and buildings. Why not MDs and shrinks?
Posted by OldSpook 2013-09-19 11:57||   2013-09-19 11:57|| Front Page Top

#8 If you wanna make an omelet you gotta break a few eggs.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2013-09-19 12:26||   2013-09-19 12:26|| Front Page Top

#9 Sounds like some watch commander thought this was "above his pay grade" and choked big time.
Posted by tu3031 2013-09-19 15:09||   2013-09-19 15:09|| Front Page Top

#10 Or was 'advised' by certain persons who will never be named that the WH needs a good mass-killings to exploit.

No, no tinfoil hat this time. After Benghazi I wouldn't put anything past this administration. If (s)he* doesn't have a problem leaving 4 Americans - including the Ambassador to die I think they will have any problems with a few peons...

* - I say she because Its been suggested that Valerie Jarrett ordered Africa Command to 'stand down' and she holds Obama's leash.
Posted by CrazyFool 2013-09-19 16:26||   2013-09-19 16:26|| Front Page Top

#11 Sounds like some watch commander thought this was "above his pay grade" and choked big time.

I'd go with the most simplistic answer: The "it's not our jurisdiction" mindset combined with "Navy Yard = Navy (D.C. Metro Police) problem."

Just another chapter in the sordid history of multi-agency law enforcement in D.C.
Posted by Pappy 2013-09-19 19:39||   2013-09-19 19:39|| Front Page Top

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