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2009-02-16 Britain
British, French boomers go bump in the night
British and French submarines armed with ballistic missiles threatened a nuclear disaster after colliding in the Atlantic, it emerged last night.
Le Bombe.
The crash is believed to have occurred after state-of-the-art technology fitted in both vessels, which is designed to detect other submarines, apparently failed completely.
You mean boomers were't sailing around the ocean blasting away on their active sonar?
Someone I'm sure will explain why two friendly boomers were in the same patch of ocean at the same time ...
Each boat is a key part of their respective countries' nuclear deterrent, ready to unleash hugely destructive weapons at a moment's notice.

While both countries claim that security was not comprised during the collision, wide-scale enquiries are currently underway on both sides of the Channel.

HMS Vanguard, the lead boat of her class in the Royal Navy, had to be towed back to her base in Scotland after the underwater mishap. French Navy sources confirm that Le Triomphant, one of four strategic nuclear submarines of the 'Force de Frappe' (Strike Force), was returning from a 70-day tour of duty when it collided with HMS Vanguard.
Force de Frappe, gotta like that one. Sounds like one of the buttons on the blender.
During heavy seas in the middle of the night between February 3 and 4, French sailors heard a loud 'bang' that all but destroyed the submarine's sonar dome.
and the careers of the captains involved
This part of the boat should have detected the Vanguard in the first place, but Le Triomphant's crew of 101 neither saw or heard anything before the collision.
it's as if they were stealth ships or something...
Or just underwater ...
Between them the submarines had 250 sailors on board.

A senior Navy source told The Sun: 'The potential consequences are unthinkable. It's very unlikely there would have been a nuclear explosion. But a radioactive leak was a possibility. Worse, we could have lost the crew and warheads. That would have been a national disaster.'

As inquiries began, naval sources said it was a million to one unlucky chance both subs were in the same patch of sea.
Like I said, someone has some 'splaining to do ...
A Ministry of Defence spokesman said: 'It is our policy not to comment on submarine operational matters, but we can confirm that the UK's deterrent capability has remained unaffected at all times and there has been no compromise to nuclear safety.'

The French last night also tried to play down the collision, with a Navy spokesman saying: 'The collision did not result in injuries among the crew and did not jeopardise nuclear security at any moment.'

Le Triomphant took at least three days to limp back to her home port, although she did not have to be towed. HMS Vanguard, by contrast, apparently had to be towed back to her home base in Faslane, Scotland.
Commanders hate to be towed
Posted by gromky 2009-02-16 00:00|| || Front Page|| [15 views ]  Top

#1 I doubt that allies, especially prickly ones like the Brits and the French, share what their patrol grids are.
Posted by Free Radical 2009-02-16 01:33||   2009-02-16 01:33|| Front Page Top

#2 and the careers of the captains involved

After putting a British sub out of order the French commander was commended and decorated.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2009-02-16 09:12||   2009-02-16 09:12|| Front Page Top

#3 well it is the first french "victory" in a long time
Posted by rabid whitetail 2009-02-16 10:08||   2009-02-16 10:08|| Front Page Top

#4 This part of the boat should have detected the Vanguard in the first place,

But it did detect it -- physically!
Posted by CrazyFool 2009-02-16 10:28||   2009-02-16 10:28|| Front Page Top

#5 "Marco...*ping*..."

Posted by Frank G 2009-02-16 10:44||   2009-02-16 10:44|| Front Page Top

#6 well it is the first french "victory" in a long time

Tell me which country has shariah courts and which one is advertising on Pakistan's TV with the theme 'Please don't hurt us". So France is going to lose the race to the bottom
Posted by JFM">JFM  2009-02-16 10:46||   2009-02-16 10:46|| Front Page Top

#7 I do believe you are right, JFM.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2009-02-16 12:05||   2009-02-16 12:05|| Front Page Top

#8 But it did detect it -- physically!

Curb Feelers on a submarine. Someone has to whip up a picture of that.
Posted by Mike N. 2009-02-16 12:17||   2009-02-16 12:17|| Front Page Top

#9 All. My. Friends. Crashed a Brit Boomer.
Posted by Mike N. 2009-02-16 12:23||   2009-02-16 12:23|| Front Page Top

#10 French Navy, doesn't just crash British boomers. It also crashes Windows Vista.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2009-02-16 12:28||   2009-02-16 12:28|| Front Page Top

#11 Frank, I wonder what they towed it back with...
Posted by Mike N. 2009-02-16 12:38||   2009-02-16 12:38|| Front Page Top

#12 Middlin big rowboat with two outboards.
Posted by Rednek Jim 2009-02-16 12:46||   2009-02-16 12:46|| Front Page Top

#13 Ouch, JFM. But then, anybody can crash Windows Vista.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-02-16 16:08||   2009-02-16 16:08|| Front Page Top

#14 Windows Vista - the "blue screen of death" generator fraudulently sold as an "operating system".
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2009-02-16 17:02|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2009-02-16 17:02|| Front Page Top

#15 It must be a stealthy boat.
Posted by Bright Pebbles the flatulent 2009-02-16 18:35||   2009-02-16 18:35|| Front Page Top

#16 LOL on the Vista comments - just replaced my dead desktop with a shop-built with XP Pro loaded instead of Vista
Posted by Frank G 2009-02-16 18:41||   2009-02-16 18:41|| Front Page Top

#17 Fine. If no one will say it, then I will.

They towed it back with an... F150! Drinks!!!

Posted by Mike N. 2009-02-16 18:54||   2009-02-16 18:54|| Front Page Top

#18 Drinks!
Posted by Frank G 2009-02-16 18:58||   2009-02-16 18:58|| Front Page Top

#19 Over at Theo Spark's, Theo explains it thusly:
The Frog was making so much noise that our guys couldn't hear where they were going.
Posted by SteveS 2009-02-16 20:12||   2009-02-16 20:12|| Front Page Top

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