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2008-04-24 Home Front: Culture Wars
Director of 'Basic Instinct' writes Jesus biography
AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - "Basic Instinct" director Paul Verhoeven has written a book that contradicts biblical teaching by suggesting that Jesus might have been fathered by a Roman soldier who raped Mary.
Sure. Why not? Thulsa Doom Reverend Wright thinks he was black. Muslims say he owned a turban. The Archdruid of Canterbury thinks he was mush or soft cheese or something like that.

Too bad he didn't spend more time hanging around the student union. More people coulda gotten to know him. And, really, he shoulda spent more time discussing his hangups with his Dad. Woulda made him more human...

No. Wait. He did spend a lot of time talking about his Father, didn't he? And his Father wasn't a Roman soldier, was he?
There you go, getting all scriptural on us ...
An Amsterdam publishing house said Wednesday it will publish the Dutch filmmaker's biography of Jesus, "Jesus of Nazareth: A Realistic Portrait," in September.
The clue, in any claptrap book written by a goofy Hollywood type, is the word 'realistic'.
Verhoeven is best known as the director of blockbuster films including "Basic Instinct" and "RoboCop," but he is also a member of "Jesus Seminar," a group of scholars and authors that seeks to establish historical facts about Jesus.
Not like one could read the Bible or anything ...
Marianna Sterk of the publishing house J.M. Meulenhoff said the book includes several ideas that run contrary to Christian faith, including the suggestion that Jesus could be the son of a Roman soldier who raped Mary during a Jewish uprising against Roman rule in 4 B.C.
There's no evidence to that effect, nor has the idea ever been suggested by any Christian scholar, as far as I know, in the past 2000 years, but what they hell, it's not like we're discussing Mohammad's habit of porking little girls. Nobody's gonna riot or threaten the author with death just for being stoopid.
The book also claims that Judas Iscariot was not responsible for Jesus' betrayal, she said.
Once you've made one silly claim, you might as well go whole hog ...
Oh, I never thought it was him. Everybody knows he hanged himself over... ummm... something else.
The movie director's claims were greeted with derision razzberries flung dog turds some skepticism among those who have dedicated their careers to studying the life of Jesus.
I mean, what the hell did Eusebius know? And St. Jerome? He wasn't nearly as smart as the guy who directed 'RoboCop.'
One issue is that there is very little information about the life of Jesus outside of the Gospels. The Gospels as understood by Christians for nearly 2,000 years do not support Verhoeven's ideas.
You don't say. No mention of rape in the gospel?
Well, they're a load of crap anyway. I mean, some of them were written by people who knew Jesus, but they hadn't been to college or anything.
William Portier, a professor of religious studies at the University of Dayton, in Ohio, said the Jesus Seminar is known for making stupid provocative claims, but "they are real scholars — you have to deal with them."
They're real scholars in the same sense Ward Churchill is a real scholar.
"We deal with them okay. We nod. We smile. Seems to work, they quit whinging after a while and go play canasta."
However, he said Verhoeven's ideas sounded crackpot psychoceramic dumb "pretty out there."
"Out where?"
"Out there!"
John Dominic Crossan, a Jesus Seminar founder, agreed.
"Oh, yasss. He's a real maroon!"
He said that while Verhoeven was a member in good standing, there is little evidence for the view that Jesus was illegitimate.
Little, as in no, evidence.
Crossan said the claim is first reported in a polemic written in the second century against the Book of Matthew, intended for a Jewish audience. "It's an obvious first retort to claims that Mary was a virgin," Crossan said. "If you wanted to do a hatchet job on Jesus' reputation, this would be the way."
By writing a mostly unknown polemic against the Book of Matthew in the second century or by writing an offensive book in the 21st century?
The most likely scenario for people who don't accept that Jesus was literally the son of God and had no human father is simply that he was the son of Joseph, Crossan said.
Occam's razor would seem to slice in that direction.
Sterk said the book will be translated into English in 2009.
I'm putting a mullet under my tongue so I can wait with baited breath.
Verhoeven hopes it will be a springboard for him to raise interest in making a film along the same lines, she said.
"Mr. Gibson! That Dutchman's on the line again!"
"Tell him I'm in Skagway!"
Verhoeven, 69, has dreamed of making a movie about Jesus' life for decades, she said. Asked whether it would be difficult to follow Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" and Martin Scorsese's "The Last Temptation of Christ," she said Verhoeven knows he may be somewhat late to market.
Cecil B DeMille said once, "give me any two pages of the Bible and I'll give you a movie." He understood that even beyond religion, the Bible was a treasure of masterful literature. Verhoeven has decided he knows better.
"He is painfully aware of that," she said. "However, he has quite a different angle."
I'm thinking seriously of becoming a devout Catholic, just so I'm nothing like people like him.
Posted by Steve White 2008-04-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [27 views ]  Top

#1 yawn.

The movie director's claims were greeted with some skepticism among those who have dedicated their careers to studying the life of Jesus.

Don't ya love the way they make it sound like there actually exists somewhere "some" serious biblical scholars who bothered to respond to this piece of shock?

Sorry Verhoeven, but you are so late 20th Century. In the 21st Century insulting Christians is no longer avante guard and just seems cowardly. If you want to be be rebellious and look tough - try insulting Islam.
Posted by Sninert Black9312 2008-04-24 00:28||   2008-04-24 00:28|| Front Page Top

#2 "However, he has quite a different angle."

You don't say. How about an obtuse angle?
Posted by anymouse">anymouse  2008-04-24 00:34||   2008-04-24 00:34|| Front Page Top

#3 Sacrilege is sooo last millennium. I would expect something with more oomph from Verhoeven. Maybe like RoboJesus:The Word Made Silicon - He is back and forgiveness is the last thing on His mind.
Posted by SteveS 2008-04-24 00:54||   2008-04-24 00:54|| Front Page Top

#4 Verhoeven wouldn't dare insult Islam -- he could get killed, and he knows it.

Whereas he can insult my religion, and my Savior requires me to do the ultimate to him -- forgive him.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2008-04-24 00:59||   2008-04-24 00:59|| Front Page Top

#5 Agreed, Steve. My God is big enough that He doesn't worry about raving lunatics like Verhoeven. There will be no riots, no calls for his beheading, no Christian rage.
Posted by Rambler in California">Rambler in California  2008-04-24 01:08||   2008-04-24 01:08|| Front Page Top

#6 This idea is from the Talmud. There is considerable disagreement between Biblical scholars on the issue.
James Tabor in his book "The Jesus Dynasty" addresses many of the controversies.
Posted by tipper 2008-04-24 01:26||   2008-04-24 01:26|| Front Page Top

#7 This is probably a better link.
Posted by tipper 2008-04-24 01:31||   2008-04-24 01:31|| Front Page Top

#8 Fascinating, tipper. I've saved the link for deeper examination when I'm not unwillingly awake in the middle of the night.
Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife  2008-04-24 04:10||   2008-04-24 04:10|| Front Page Top

#9 TW it's only 6 P.M. here. I haven't even dropped into the local watering hole yet:)
Posted by tipper 2008-04-24 04:57||   2008-04-24 04:57|| Front Page Top

#10 All things considered, I prefer Morton Smith.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-04-24 07:55||   2008-04-24 07:55|| Front Page Top

#11 "Basic Instinct" director Paul Verhoeven has written a book that contradicts biblical teaching by suggesting that Jesus might have been fathered by a Roman soldier who raped Mary.

What, "suggesting" that Mo-ham-head is a war-mongering, hate-filled pedophile wasn't "avant garde" enough? Oh yeah, as others have stated, he *knows* there will be no physical harm/threats against him from Christians, but if he even sneezes toward Mecca, he's toast!
Posted by BA 2008-04-24 10:09||   2008-04-24 10:09|| Front Page Top

#12 Verhoeven, 69, has dreamed of making a movie about Jesus' life for decades...

Will Mary have a crotch shot in it? Maybe she'll be a biblical stripper?
Posted by tu3031 2008-04-24 11:09||   2008-04-24 11:09|| Front Page Top

#13 He'll probably have Mary Magdelene as the stripper.

And I guess the Roman Soldier will be black so he can make a black Jesus to satisfy Rev Wright and be really really controversial.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-04-24 12:44||   2008-04-24 12:44|| Front Page Top

#14 No, the Roman soldier had a small peewee.
After all, she was still a virgin after the birth.
Posted by wxjames 2008-04-24 13:08||   2008-04-24 13:08|| Front Page Top

#15 Two thousand years after the Ascension, and they're still trying to bring Him down to Earth. Oh, Paul, sixty-nine years old and you still can't let Him go.
Posted by mrp 2008-04-24 13:40||   2008-04-24 13:40|| Front Page Top

#16 Verhoeven is best known as the director of blockbuster films including "Basic Instinct" and "RoboCop," but he is also a member of "Jesus Seminar," a group of scholars and authors that seeks to establish historical facts about Jesus.

The Jesus Seminar is about the wackiest group of "scholars," "academics,' and "theologians" one could ever hope to find. I guess they haven't been getting anough press lately and wanted to stay relevant.

However, he said Verhoeven's ideas sounded "pretty out there."

John Dominic Crossan, a Jesus Seminar founder, agreed.


One of the Seminar members wrote a book in the 70s (can't remember his name now) saying many of the major world religions (Hinduism, Judaism, and Christianity) were started because of eating toadstools (amanita muscaria is hallucinogenic), and they included coded references to magic shrooms in scripture and early iconography. So, these guys are quite familiar with "out there," spending much time there themselves.
Posted by xbalanke 2008-04-24 13:41||   2008-04-24 13:41|| Front Page Top

#17 If they think anti-Christians will fill the theaters for such a movie in the same way believers went to see Passion of the Christ I think they'll be let down. The anti-Christians might buy the book to display (not to read) but I doubt they'd see such a movie in the theaters.

I love robocop, total Recall and Starship Troopers but Verhoven is a pervert and a tool.
Posted by rjschwarz 2008-04-24 14:05||   2008-04-24 14:05|| Front Page Top

#18 it is a step up from Sharon's red snapper to the fisher of men
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-04-24 15:45||   2008-04-24 15:45|| Front Page Top

#19 I remember years ago reading a serious look at the "Virgin Mary" story, they stated (With proof) that true virgin births were recorded today, with one catch, all "True Virgin Births" were female. (No male DNA to use making an embryo)

But "Heavy petting" (Without actual penetration) did result in pregnancy,(Sperm is highly motile) and the woman was still a "Virgin",that's the only way a true virgin could birth a male child.
Posted by Redneck Jim">Redneck Jim  2008-04-24 21:16||   2008-04-24 21:16|| Front Page Top

#20 After all, she was still a virgin after the birth.

Maybe she had one of those Mooselimb virginity restoration jobs. No, wait, that would be an anachronism. Lemme think....
Posted by KBK 2008-04-24 22:19||   2008-04-24 22:19|| Front Page Top

#21 Actually his Starship Trooper sucked compared to the novel. I hate him for that.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-04-24 23:38||   2008-04-24 23:38|| Front Page Top

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