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2008-02-01 Home Front: Politix
Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP
Am I the only one, or does it seem a tad suspicious that this is coming out just now? Whether true or not, it seems to me that this is a stragegic move from the beginning of the race that involves muzzling lots of Dems until just the right moment. Or it's been recently fabricated. And again, depending on who initiated this, in either of these cases, it tells me who the Dems' worst nightmare is.

Sen. John McCain (RINO-Ariz.) was close to leaving the Republican Party in 2001, weeks before then-Sen. Jim Jeffords (Vt.) famously announced his decision to become an Independent, according to former Democratic lawmakers who say they were involved in the discussions.

In interviews with The Hill this month, former Sen. Tom Daschle (D-S.D.) and ex-Rep. Tom Downey (D-N.Y.) said there were nearly two months of talks with the maverick lawmaker following an approach by John Weaver, McCain’s chief political strategist.

Democrats had contacted Jeffords and then-Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.) in the early months of 2001 about switching parties, but in McCain’s case, they said, it was McCain’s top strategist who came to them.

At the end of their March 31, 2001 lunch at a Chinese restaurant in Bethesda, Md., Downey said Weaver asked why Democrats hadn’t asked McCain to switch parties.

Downey, a well-connected lobbyist, said he was stunned.

“You’re really wondering?” Downey said he told Weaver. “What do you mean you’re wondering?”

“Well, if the right people asked him,” Weaver said, according to Downey, adding that he responded, “The calls will be made. Who do you want?” Weaver this week said he did have lunch with Downey that spring, pointing out that he and Downey “are very good friends.”

He claims, however, that Downey is grossly mischaracterizing their exchange: “We certainly didn’t discuss in any detail about the senator’s political plans and any discussion about party-switchers, generically, would have been limited to the idle gossip which was all around the city about the [Democrats’] aggressive approach about getting any GOP senator to switch in order to gain the majority. Nothing more or less than that.”

Downey said Weaver is well aware that their discussion was much more than typical Washington chit-chat.

“Within seconds” of arriving home from his lunch with Weaver, Downey said he was on the phone to the most powerful Democrats in town. One of the first calls he made was to then-Senate Minority Leader Daschle.

“I did take the call from Tom [Downey],” Daschle said in an interview. “It was Weaver’s comment” to Downey that started the McCain talks, he added.

Daschle noted that McCain at that time was frustrated with the Bush administration as a result of his loss to George W. Bush in the 2000 Republican primary.

Daschle said that throughout April and May of 2001, he and McCain “had meetings and conversations on the floor and in his office, I think in mine as well, about how we would do it, what the conditions would be. We talked about committees and his seniority … [A lot of issues] were on the table.”

Absolutely not so, according to McCain. In a statement released by his campaign, McCain said, “As I said in 2001, I never considered leaving the Republican Party, period.”

Some of the meetings Daschle referred to are detailed in the former senator’s 2003 book.

Other senators who played major roles in the intense recruiting effort, according to Democrats, were then-Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.) as well as Sens. Edward Kennedy (Dickhead-Mass.) and Harry Reid (Dickless-Nev.).

“John [Edwards] at that time was working with McCain on a couple things and there was a sense that because of his relationship that he might be a good person to talk to him,” Daschle said. “He was clearly one of those that we thought could be helpful.”

A source close to Edwards said Daschle’s comments are accurate.

Daschle also said, “Both Sen. Reid and I talked to [McCain] both individually and together.”

Several former McCain aides who worked for the senator in 2001 and are now in the private sector did not return phone calls seeking comment.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a longtime friend of McCain’s, said yesterday, “I have never heard one word from John’s mouth to suggest he was going to leave the Republican Party. These are political-intrigue stories that have no basis in fact.”
Speculation about McCain’s flirtations with becoming an Independent surfaced in the press throughout 2001.

In one article, Marshall Wittman, a McCain loyalist and strategist six years ago, put the odds of McCain leaving the Republican Party at “50-50.” Wittman, who now works for Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.), declined to comment for this article. A source said that Wittman’s comment at that time was “completely based on speculation.”

McCain consistently shot down the rumors, though Weaver acknowledged this week that the senator did talk to Democrats about leaving the GOP.

He said McCain was invited to a meeting in Kennedy’s office with several other Democratic senators but “didn’t know what the meeting was for” and left soon thereafter. Weaver added that Edwards approached McCain on the Senate floor to discuss the matter.

Daschle, however, said the talks went much further, claiming that there were times that he and Democratic leaders thought McCain “might be our best opportunity.” Daschle stressed that McCain never considered becoming a Democrat, but was close to becoming an Independent.

Downey said, “I actually thought during the initial stages of this that [McCain leaving the Republican Party] was almost a certain deal.”

Weaver, who changed his party affiliation to “Democrat” several years ago, said he respects Daschle and Downey, but added, “They’re partisan Democrats and we’re in the political season.”

Told of Weaver’s version of what happened, Daschle said, “Obviously, our recollection of what transpired is somewhat different.”

Daschle first made some of these assertions in little-noticed parts of his book, titled Like No Other Time: The 107th Congress and the Two Years That Changed America Forever.

The book states that in 2001, Daschle and other Democrats were attempting to persuade three Republicans to leave their party: Jeffords, Chafee, and McCain.

Asked which one was the closest to committing, Daschle answered, “Depended on the day.”

On page 62, Daschle wrote that McCain and Chafee “seemed like real possibilities” to bolt their party. He pointed out that few, if any, of McCain’s people were hired by the Bush administration.

“John didn’t think that was right,” Daschle wrote, “that his staff should be penalized like that.”

Chafee confirmed to The Hill this week that he had meetings with Democrats about changing parties in 2001 because he was “alarmed” at the differences between President Bush’s campaign promises and the policies coming out of his administration.

Weaver said he hasn’t read Daschle’s book, which does not mention the Downey-Weaver lunch.

Mark Salter, who in 2001 was McCain’s chief of staff and now works for the senator’s campaign, said McCain has not at any moment thought about leaving the Republican Party: “Never at any time. Never.”

Salter said there were no staff discussions about this issue, noting he would have been in on them.

Soon after Bush was inaugurated as the nation’s 43rd president, McCain was working with Democrats on many issues, ranging from gun control to healthcare to campaign-finance reform.

McCain’s links to Democrats were so clear that Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) — now a close ally of McCain — publicly criticized him in the early part of 2001 for keeping “unusual company.”

Jeffords pulled the trigger on May 24, 2001, throwing control of the Senate to Democrats. Chafee and McCain then broke off their discussions with Democratic leaders, according to Democrats.

Downey said he talked to Weaver at least once a week during McCain’s discussions with Democrats, asking him questions like, “What is the state of play?” and “Where are we?”

“Weaver was very active in this,” Downey said, “None of this happens without Weaver.”

The Democrats’ claims about McCain come as the senator is courting the Republican base for his 2008 White House bid. Other frontrunners for the GOP nomination have raised some eyebrows in conservative circles. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) voted for Democratic Sen. Paul Tsongas (Mass.) in 1992, while ex-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) endorsed then-New York Gov. Mario Cuomo (D) a couple years later.

Asked why this news hasn’t come out before, Downey said, “It’s a mystery to me. And in fact, the last time Weaver and I had dinner together [on April 26, 2006], we laughed about this … It’s never been written about, never got in the paper.”

He denied any political motivation, saying he is still friends with Weaver and “deeply respects” McCain. “I would have been happy to come forward last year or the year before if someone had asked … There were meetings in offices. You can’t deny [these meetings took place]. They occurred.”

Downey added, “It’s my hope that John McCain is the Republican nominee because from my perspective, although I think Democrats are going to win, if they don’t, McCain is the sort of man I would feel comfortable [with] as the president of the United States. I’m not trying to hurt him.”

Daschle said he doesn’t believe the new revelations will hurt McCain. “Everyone has known John McCain to be independent, to take his own course. That was a time in his life when he at least weighed the possibility of becoming an independent, but he rejected it, so I can’t imagine that can ever be used as a political liability.”

On June 2, 2001, The Washington Post ran a front-page story with the headline “McCain is Considering Leaving GOP; Arizona Senator Might Launch a Third-Party Challenge to Bush in 2004.”

The article, written in the wake of the Jeffords’s announcement, noted that Daschle and his wife were visiting the McCains at the senator’s home in Arizona for what was billed by McCain’s office as a social event. But by that time, McCain had decided to stay a Republican, according to Daschle.

In his book, Daschle wrote that plans for the June weekend getaway were made months earlier when McCain was mulling changing his party affiliation.

As the media camped outside the senator’s vacation house in Sedona, Ariz., Daschle and McCain discussed “what an incredible piece of history Jim Jeffords had just written,” Daschle wrote. “Nothing was said about John doing the same thing. I think we both knew that wasn’t going to happen, not now.”

McCain and Bush settled their differences before the president’s reelection campaign in 2004, when McCain strongly backed his former nemesis after reportedly rejecting an offer from Sen. John Kerry (Dickweed-Mass.) to become his vice presidential nominee. Last year, McCain aggressively stumped for dozens of GOP candidates.
Posted by gorb 2008-02-01 05:29|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top

#1 I'm not buying it. I agree with gorb about the timing. In addition, a guy who spent 5 years plus in the Hanoi Hilton embracing the party of people who rooted for the North Vietnamese? What're the odds of that?

McCain has his flaws, and he has a fighter-pilot's ego that can be grating--but if it's a credibility duel between him and Tom Daschle, it's no contest.
Posted by Mike 2008-02-01 08:32||   2008-02-01 08:32|| Front Page Top

#2 If McCain were the dem/media "worst nightmare" (which I don't buy), then McCain would not have gotten this far. They'd be revisiting the K-5 scandal as if it were the worst case of corruption ever.

I think the dem/media are working for a McCain nomination so they can trounce him in November. Therefore I suspect this story comes from a current McCain oppenent (or enemy).
Posted by Captain Lewis 2008-02-01 08:47||   2008-02-01 08:47|| Front Page Top

#3 If it were a Republican dirty trick, this wouldn't be running in the Hill, which IIRC tends to be a DNC outlet. More likely this is a mainline Dem bomb aimed to knock down the most dangerous surviving candidate in the Republican primaries, from their point of view.

This probably isn't a Hillary operation, the Clintons are too busy fighting for their life in their own primaries to be spending scarce MSM resources on afterprimary prepwork. It's probably exactly what it looks like - out-of-office DNC types looking to knife the Republican frontrunner in an attempt to get back into the good graces of the eventual Democratic nominee.

And I'd give this story about a 25% chance of being true. McCain can be damned stupid when he's pissed. On the other hand, there's a 50% chance that it's partially true, in that Weaver was trying to put something together on his own hook, and is lying about it now because he didn't really have authorization from McCain to talk with Downey, and was just hoping to ask for forgiveness in a later which never came. The rest of it would just be idiot senators hearing what they were expecting to hear from objectively innocuous conversations with McCain himself

The last 25% is that this is pure black-hearted calumny, and Daschle & Downey are lying their asses off.

Interestingly enough, Downey has a history of being involved with DNC dirty trick operations. He was the actual recipient of the Bush debate preparation materials in the run-up to the 2000 presidential debates.
Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H.  2008-02-01 09:47|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]  2008-02-01 09:47|| Front Page Top

#4 This came out MONTHS ago, about 10 to be precise. It's only now that traction is under it because of McCains status of frontrunner. They have a discussion about this over at HotAir.
Posted by Charles 2008-02-01 10:58||   2008-02-01 10:58|| Front Page Top

#5 My local Fox station did an segment on political dirty tricks a month back. It showed how the DNC had put an anti-McCain page out on Youtube pretending to be a Huckabee attack add.

You can bet that the Dems have plenty of negative material against McCain and are trying to make sure conservative voters sit this election out.

Whenever you hear things like this remember McCain's conservative rating: 82%.

Al
Posted by Frozen Al 2008-02-01 11:52||   2008-02-01 11:52|| Front Page Top

#6 I dunno - I heard rumors about this at that time. then there's McCain flirting with being Kerry's VP.

John McCain is untrustworthy, a two-faced liar, and a stubborn egomaniac. So that certainly puts it within the realm of possibilites that he would leave the GOP in a fit of anger.


John McCain rarely lets lack of information and expertise stand in his way. Iraq, of course, is a notable exception.

But what about McCain's other positions? He opposes drilling in ANWR because, in his words, the area is "pristine" (which in this case means barren) and he "wouldn't drill in the Grand Canyon." Has any candidate ever presented a less serious analysis of an important policy question?

He opposes waterboarding in part because "torture doesn't work." Maybe the things the North Vietnamese did to him at the Hanoi Hilton didn't work, but we know from eye-witness accounts that waterboarding worked. When asked about this, McCain essentially accused the CIA of lying.

McCain's tendency to make snap judgments based on prejudice rather than information, and his hostility to information that doesn't conform to his prejudices, is perhaps the most frightening aspect of candidacy.


And that doesnt even factor in his repeated smear of Romney with a repeated lie about Romney's support for the surge, nor does it account for his lying denail of calling Justice Alito "too conservative", nor his two-faced immigration stance by employing a former Mexican Cabinet minister and failing to disclaim Juan Hernandez's statements that he wants Americans to think "Mexico First" even as 7th generation Americans and wants open borders.

McCain? Disaster.


Posted by OldSpook 2008-02-01 12:31||   2008-02-01 12:31|| Front Page Top

#7 This came up back in 2002. Some of his staffers jumped ship to the Democrats that year. The topic came up again in 2004.

McCain won't jump ship because his ego won't let him. For him, hanging on and angling for control of the GOP is better revenge than ending up a Benedict Arnold in a donkey-suit.
Posted by Pappy 2008-02-01 12:33||   2008-02-01 12:33|| Front Page Top

#8 I'd say McCain abandoned the GOP shortly after GWB took office.

Besides, he's a hot-headed old fool. He's going to get trounced by Hillary in the general.
Posted by Anon4021 2008-02-01 12:41||   2008-02-01 12:41|| Front Page Top

#9 If McCain runs, Bloomberg has a chance. I think he's Bob Dole all over again - a centrist guy whose weakness with the conservative base opens up the field to a third party run.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2008-02-01 13:28|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2008-02-01 13:28|| Front Page Top

#10 Well, if his Presidential run turns out to be another bust he can always have his own drama series...
'John McCain..The Maverick Lawmaker'
Posted by DepotGuy 2008-02-01 15:12||   2008-02-01 15:12|| Front Page Top

#11 Benedict Arold is rather apt. He was a war hero who turned against his principles for personal gain.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-02-01 18:08||   2008-02-01 18:08|| Front Page Top

#12 I think if it comes to the general election McCain actually wins. Too much animus w/Hillary in all sections of society.

I like Romney much better but I'll hold my nose for the rino over the european socialist.
Posted by Broadhead6 2008-02-01 22:28||   2008-02-01 22:28|| Front Page Top

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